In Reply to: A lot of people don't understand dither posted by Christine Tham on March 1, 2007 at 14:03:41:
What Todd correctly points out is that if the original signal contains wideband noise, with a suitable distribution, and at a level at or above the target word length's equivalent noise floor, then the signal is self-dithering and truncation to the target length can be done without additional dither.In real-world music productions the total amount of noise originating as thermal noise prior to the ADCs, in the final digital-domain high-resolution master more often than not exceeds the 20bit -120dB noise floor and truncations to word lengths of 20 bit or more don't need dither.
Your 24bit/16bit picture analogy is not quite valid as truncation to 16 bit (i.e. 5/6/5 bits for R/G/B respectively) makes the target noise floor exceed that part of the noise floor in the original image that could have worked as self-dither. In fact, as image sensors offer 60-70dB (10-12bit) of original SNR (10-12bit) in the dark and are shotnoise-limited in the light one can safely say that in almost all applications the original non-correlated image noise lies way below the quantisation noise floor of the 8/8/8 '24' bit format and thus will never serve as self-dither.
If the original raw image does contain visible noise (and trust me, it will ;-), then keep in mind that this high-level noise originates as shot noise or as image processing truncation noise and thus is correlated and non-dithering.
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- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Werner 00:29:54 03/02/07 (14)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Christine Tham 14:30:28 03/02/07 (13)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Werner 23:59:30 03/04/07 (7)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Christine Tham 14:39:12 03/05/07 (6)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Werner 00:00:26 03/06/07 (5)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Christine Tham 16:55:21 03/06/07 (4)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Werner 23:24:36 03/06/07 (3)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Christine Tham 15:39:06 03/07/07 (2)
- Re: A lot of people don't understand dither - Werner 23:57:08 03/07/07 (1)
- Great, now that you've finally had a chance to show some of your "knowledge" ... - Christine Tham 01:01:50 03/08/07 (0)
- More on "self dithering" and actual noise levels in recordings - Christine Tham 15:46:57 03/02/07 (4)
- Re: More on "self dithering" and actual noise levels in recordings - Todd Krieger 00:36:14 03/08/07 (1)
- Re: More on "self dithering" and actual noise levels in recordings - Christine Tham 14:19:47 03/08/07 (0)
- Re: More on "self dithering" and actual noise levels in recordings - Dave Kingsland 17:05:52 03/03/07 (1)
- Re: More on "self dithering" and actual noise levels in recordings - Christine Tham 02:29:52 03/04/07 (0)