Bedini - snake oil??

Posted by John C. - Aussie (A) on May 23, 2005 at 16:36:58

Maybe discussed here before but, if so, I missed it so apologies to anyone irritated by repeat rounds on the same topic.

There are members of the Melbourne Audio Club who swear by this device. For those not in the know it is supposed to improve the sound - how it is done is described in the patent link below. Here is how one guy (who swears it works) tried to explain it to me:

"It appears to be simply a de-gausser ie. remove stored magnetic fields, perhaps remove static charge as well. It appears to be simply a modulating direct magnetic field. [The rotation is to cover the whole CD without needing a very large magnetic platter].

"What I don't understand is why the magnetic field does not die slowly when power is removed. The magnets are charging the disc at all times and this is not a falling intensity oscillating magnetic field such as a de-gausser.

"Relaxation may well be a phenomena that affects a lot of chemical or charge situations but how that effects light reflections off a CD has not made it's reasoning known to me yet. I'm hoping that I can make sense of Bedini's patent explanation eventually. Fingers crossed.

"Some other definitions from Spectroscopy are:

"NMR spectroscopy would not be possible if it were not for relatively long "relaxation" times. Relax-ation is the process that tends to re-align the nuclear spins with the field and randomize their phases, an effect that leads to complete loss of the information represented in such a spin. In liquid state, relaxation times of the order of seconds are common and attributed to the weakness of nuclear interactions and a fast averaging effect associated with the rapid, tumbling motions of molecules in the liquid state.

"Relaxation time is the time scale over which useful signal from a
computation is lost."

The above makes about as little sense as the patent description in the link below.

A couple of people have tried to demonstrate the Bedini device here but without success. One guy got very irate at my inquiry about any tests on a treated vs an untreated CD to discount the placebo affect.

To me it is all a load of horse manure.

John

Interesting times

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Topic - Bedini - snake oil?? - John C. - Aussie 16:36:58 05/23/05 (21)

Re:- snake oil?? - mark smith 11:02:14 05/27/05 (1)

Re:- snake oil?? - Jon Risch 20:26:32 05/28/05 (0)

Re: Bedini - snake oil?? - Jon Risch 21:21:13 05/25/05 (1)

Re: Bedini - snake oil?? - pburke 07:27:01 05/26/05 (0)

It's not the aluminum that's the problem! - golden_ears 12:29:25 05/25/05 (1)

Re: It's not the aluminum that's the problem! - pburke 13:50:35 05/25/05 (0)

try it - richardl 09:38:46 05/25/05 (0)

Re: Bedini - snake oil?? - Djhymn 14:17:20 05/24/05 (1)

Furutech and Bedini - Jon L 21:29:39 05/24/05 (0)

Re: Bedini - snake oil?? - Tracksider 13:51:01 05/24/05 (5)

not exactly rocket science.? - 4frank2 23:03:42 05/24/05 (4)

Re: not exactly rocket science.? - Tracksider 01:32:54 05/25/05 (2)

Re: not exactly rocket science.? - 4frank2 02:16:02 05/25/05 (1)

Re: not exactly rocket science.? - Trackside 13:23:23 05/25/05 (0)

Re: not exactly rocket science.? - wavz 23:30:34 05/24/05 (0)

John, Your problem is clearly that..... - Chuck Y 08:18:21 05/24/05 (0)

Thanks for the link... - unclestu52 21:04:28 05/23/05 (0)

Re: Bedini - snake oil?? - elektron 20:59:55 05/23/05 (0)

Re: Bedini - snake oil?? - wavz 17:38:55 05/23/05 (2)

Re: Bedini - snake oil?? - dsdreamer 19:54:59 05/23/05 (1)

Don't be surprised - jsr 19:28:41 06/01/05 (0)

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