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In Reply to: Hi Jon posted by jneutron on June 19, 2003 at 06:36:18:
[ I challenge any physicist on the planet to disagree with Tony's assertion that the laws of physics are inviolate. ]Are you really that naive?
What Tony was implying was that the "Laws of Physics" say that cables do not sound different. That was the only reason for his posting of what would otherwise be a tautology.
And if you thought I was challanging this kind of statement at face value, meaningless as it would be, then you ARE naive.
[ The laws of physics do not depend on how many cables or systems he has listened to. ]
See above, it was NOT just about the "Laws of Physics".
[ He did NOT say "merely listening" ]
He said, "just by listening" in what was obviously a deragatory manner.
Again, if you want to try and hide your head in the sand, and pretend that it was not meant in that manner, then you are not being realistic at all.If you are going to label the statements I made as personal attacks, then I suggest that what you want to write off as mere statements about the "Laws of Physics", and "just listening", etc. are also definitely in the category of attacks. I find it odd that you will defend Tony, but want to hang me. By your definitions, either there were none, or some, but you can't have it both ways John.
I would characterize what I posted as observations and questions. However, taken out of context, or with a biased eye,
I am sure that someone can get all worked up about it. Witch hunt time.[ Jon...you are abusing your position as moderator..I have asked you many times to rethink your position.. ]
How little you know with regard to the issue of moderating. It is highly likely that anyone interested enough in the subject to take over for me would be much less tolerant of posts from the likes of Tony.
Instead of immediately moving or deleting the post, it was allowed to stand, and despite the antagonistic tone of the post, most of the folks responded in earnest, with what I feel was commendable restraint. Then, once Tony started responding to what was initialy a post asking about listening issues with his bizarre statements about "The Laws of Physics", which were clearly intended to denigrate, it was clear that his intent was not so innocent, but rather was in fact, a troll of sorts.
Then, in point of fact, I posted a reply which attempted to explain some things to Tony, rather than merely deleting his
post, or asking to have him banned. Not many would have been this lenient. Yet you seem to feel that I am the one who should be apologizing to Tony for his trolling, and that I should "rethink my position". If I have any real flaws in these matters, it is probably that I have been too lenient for far too long, and allowed threads, subjects and the like to go on long enough that they get into trouble with enough volleys back and forth.You may not realize it, but I receive numerous complaints with regard to the AR regulars posting here, as well as the semi-regular trolls from folks like Tony. Neither are truly welcomed by the vast majority of the inmates.
Jon Risch
Jon Risch
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Follow Ups
- Re: Hi Jon (Re-post of a reply on the 19th) - Jon Risch 08:30:37 06/22/03 (1)
- Re: Hi Jon (Re-post of a reply on the 19th) - jneutron 06:45:34 06/23/03 (0)
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