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In Reply to: Hobby work vs a functional system to deliver a good. posted by Smelly_Socks on September 25, 2016 at 10:49:20:
First, I only cited my homebuilt cable as an example, and not as a real world example. However, I do have the electrical background to embark upon such a quest. The defense contractor I was working for at the time could easily have taken my idea, and mass produced the cable in its entirety without human intervention from source to packaging. To have custom automation machines made would be no problem. The R&D money of these companies and development of products rival the GDP of many countries.These companies have the resources to have Belden and any number of other wire manufacturers build cable to their specifications at the same time. Reels of unused cable were often tossed to make room. Although, the company would via economies of scale manufacture the cables at a fraction of the cost of my example. But I can insure you that they would not discount the product one penny, and if anything they probably would use Jon's multiple of 10-times. Where I worked in the company the prevailing multiple was 7-times. Once the R&D and startup cost were recovered the price of the product dropped. Once the initial cost were recovered, from the company's perspective every penny, thereafter, was 100% profit. So they could position the product's cost to meet or undercut the competition.
SS, I could have easily and affordably opted for pre-clad Teflon wire, but for me that was not the fun. I did not undertake the project with the intent of manufacture. If I had - my approach would have been much different. You attributed intent to my example and then went on to make what I took to be a personal attack as to the folly of my experiment.
You stated you had a problem with Rick, his company, products, and his marketing statements. Again, I agree with you, that I feel there are many products that are ridiculously priced and the marketing hype is so much hot air. I don't bellyache all over the net because I think some products and the hype are crap.
On the other hand ,if you are forewarning us of possible safety concerns (as you did with my example) then I applaud you. Ranting for the sake of ranting is your right, but dismissing other factors that are involved (as a few of us here have done regarding labor, R&D) is not fair. I am not attacking you. If anything I was augmenting your argument. I just don't understand your concerns UNLESS it is specifically about Rick.
As I read your post, I, initially, read that you were saying the product was over priced based on the value of the components (period). If it is personal - count me out! I don't know you or Rick and I have no desire to intervene in a personal pissing contest.
DaveT
Edits: 09/26/16
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