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RE: What do you mean by "phoney"?

I've also seen a lot of Audioquest cable (for example) - on eBay & elsewhere - being sold from China without packaging that was totally fake. I'm not contesting your point about the realities of subcontracting manufacture to low cost producers in Asia & elsewhere but I'd be willing to bet there's a lot more of the fake stuff than "genuine" product coming from China via eBay & Agon at the moment. The problem is that it's almost impossible to tell which you are buying until you receive the product & by then it's often too late.

In relation to Elizabeth's original issue, there's also a guy on A-gon selling a suspiciously large volume of Oyaide wall receptacles & covers at well below retail prices. Hard to know whether these are counterfeit or "gray market" ...


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