In Reply to: Can an I/C filter low frequencies? posted by DKG on April 10, 2006 at 07:07:03:
The only way to get a passive high-pass filter is to put capacitance in series, or inductance in parallel, with the load impedance (in your case, the input resistance of the preamp). A simple IC would not have these reactive impedances as parasitics. It would have inductance in series and capacitance in parallel, so it would have some degree of low-pass action. Transparent cables have networks in series with them to give deliberate low-pass filtering with a corner frequency around 40 KHz. I have a friend who has listened to Transparent cables and claims the low-pass affects the treble.However, there are a couple of ways that a simple IC can screw up the coherence between treble and bass, and give the impression of clean or muddy bass. One is if there is excessive nonlinear capacitance in the cable dielectric. Another is if the cable has acoustic resonance problems that couple specific frequencies into the connected equipment.
RF noise that is filtered and amplified by electrical resonance of an IC typically affects the midrange and treble, but it can also make certain notes seem to jump out or move around on the sound-stage. I haven't heard this affect the bass, but it could be the origin of your observation.
Finally, I've heard it said that very thin wire in the IC can cause diminished bass. I haven't heard this effect, but then I've not experimented with very thin wire either. I would not expect your Transparent cables to have very thin wire, but the filter components might give the same effect. A review available on-line also comments about some lack of bass "punch."
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- No, but it can screw up timing... - Al Sekela 08:37:46 04/10/06 (40)
- Re: No, but it can screw up timing... - DKG 08:48:02 04/10/06 (39)
- Sorry, no experience with HGA cables... - Al Sekela 10:54:41 04/10/06 (35)
- How "strong RF" can affect the silver sound? (nt) - cheap-Jack 12:56:25 04/10/06 (34)
- How "strong RF" can affect the sound. - Al Sekela 13:41:29 04/10/06 (33)
- Yea, you are full of "speculation", pal. (long) - cheap-Jack 13:51:16 04/11/06 (32)
- Which one of Maxwell's equations are you having trouble with? - Al Sekela 11:21:32 04/12/06 (16)
- Maxwell..wasn't he that coffee guy?? - jneutron 11:30:12 04/12/06 (15)
- Measurements performed by a friend. - Al Sekela 13:33:25 04/12/06 (13)
- Time Domain Reflectometry ? - tonemaniac 06:36:48 04/13/06 (5)
- Which does not even take into account.... - tonemaniac 08:28:44 04/13/06 (2)
- That is a very interesting idea, thanks... - Al Sekela 14:07:37 04/13/06 (1)
- I think this is why my carbon fiber ICs have such good low level resolution - tonemaniac 15:27:09 04/13/06 (0)
- No, I believe it was an HP network analyzer. - Al Sekela 07:13:21 04/13/06 (1)
- It doesn't matter - jneutron 17:33:08 04/13/06 (0)
- hmmm - jneutron 13:46:23 04/12/06 (6)
- Don't read much? - Al Sekela 07:25:40 04/13/06 (5)
- Silly post.. - jneutron 17:28:09 04/13/06 (4)
- Quit demanding proof/s - Jon Risch 20:59:28 04/13/06 (3)
- Don't be so silly - jneutron 06:45:15 04/17/06 (2)
- John, there's something you need to consider - bartc 06:55:31 04/17/06 (1)
- I am aware of that. - jneutron 07:30:09 04/17/06 (0)
- Good question. I'm awaiting the supporting data. (nt) - cheap-Jack 12:14:30 04/12/06 (0)
- Al mentioned: - Duster 19:09:04 04/11/06 (14)
- So how come copper "corrosion" by Teflon ?? (nt) - cheap-Jack 08:09:42 04/12/06 (13)
- Sorry for being unclear. - Al Sekela 11:07:20 04/12/06 (12)
- Correction, and opinion - Jon Risch 20:50:52 04/13/06 (1)
- Thank you. - Al Sekela 10:58:30 04/14/06 (0)
- PTFE Teflon vs. FEP Teflon - Duster 16:28:59 04/13/06 (0)
- Sorry, you're very "unclear" yourself. - cheap-Jack 12:45:15 04/12/06 (8)
- Self-elected there, Jack? - bartc 13:36:55 04/12/06 (6)
- Who needs lip service here? - cheap-Jack 07:18:00 04/13/06 (5)
- Re: Who needs lip service here? - Dawnrazor 10:37:32 04/13/06 (1)
- Where does it say it is NOT a technical forum? - cheap-Jack 18:50:12 04/13/06 (0)
- "Also, may I suggest you refrain from getting personal?" Ha! nt - clifff 07:51:50 04/13/06 (2)
- You got into the wrong forum. "HaHa" man. (nt) - cheap-Jack 18:41:26 04/13/06 (1)
- Hypocrasy knows no boundaries (nt) - clifff 17:27:37 04/14/06 (0)
- Re: No, but it can screw up timing... - Dawnrazor 09:00:15 04/10/06 (2)
- Re: No, but it can screw up timing... - DKG 11:54:09 04/10/06 (1)
- Re: No, but it can screw up timing... - bublitchki 14:28:39 04/10/06 (0)