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In Reply to: Re: Cable Test Method posted by kuribo on November 19, 2002 at 01:10:46:
Hello ALL,In the interests of free and open discussion I feel it is imperative that we all maintain a friendly attitude. Of course it is possible to challenge an opinion or ask a question, but it is important that this is done in a non-confrontational or non-inflamatory manner, otherwise discussions soon become mute, personalities soon take over and people (visitors and posters) become disinterested. With a new forum such as this we have a unique opportunity to show how it should be done.
When thinking about answering a post in an inflammatory way, just think about how you would like your posts answered: in a friendly and informative way or in an agressive and confrontational way.
It is not about he said, I said, he said.... its about getting along and having fun.
HAVE FUN,
Follow Ups:
Joey, you appear new to the asylum. I appreciate your input and your enthusiasm. Still, this has been going on for years, and I have certainly lost my patience. We have been arguing the same points for at least 4 years, either here or on AR, with many of the same people. I have been going through old responses that I made years ago, and I actually was more polite. Yes, I have changed, but I will still try to keep civil enough not to be completely ineffective with others.
Many people think that cable measurements are a waste of time, because they are so subtle. Others have listened to cable differences and that is enough for them, as they trust their ears. I have heard differences, but I would prefer to measure what I hear. That is why I researched and published technical papers on TIM, capacitor linear (DA) and non-linear distortion, and any other problems such as resistors, volume controls, etc.
If you check the archives of the AES up to about 20 years ago, you will find many interesting research articles on distortion in audio systems. Later work is been stifled, because the folks in power don't like the idea that wires, etc can be important. They just ignore it at the AES, and just throw out criticisms about it when they can. Dr. Toole has been brought up on this website. Dr. Toole made some criticisms of wire differences 15 years ago when I first met him, that were not even part of the program. I am well aware of his position on wires, and I doubt that he has changed much, if at all. Yet some here, almost glorify the guy as the savior of the audio industry! On another thread, a 'double-blind' test by Larry Greenhill was cited. Well, I know that the RESULTS of the test were re-written by Larry Greenhill, in order to get it published. How do I know? Hy Kachalsky (sp) , Larry's friend and co-tester, told me so. He was very disappointed, because of the bias used by the magazine to make sure that the test measured almost nothing useful. How about that folks? Objectivity in action!
That is something that most people here did not know JC and it was worth posting it.I lost all faith in Stereophile with the exception of some of their mesurements of components,but their opinions have hurt alot of good Companies which have gone belly up because of their BIAS'd attitude.A real shame.
Hearing is believeing I guess.That is what I have found in regard to taking the S-philes word.If they like a piece of equiptment I would rather go hear for myself weather there is any truth to it.More often times then not there is better components than the ones they recommend and for less.Could be the tweeker in me.Laughing!
But your question is still very valid.
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