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In Reply to: Toole and cables posted by Phil Tower on November 17, 2002 at 07:39:30:
Yeah and it makes a difference to the extent that you either get a MUD sound to getting a Musical sound with good synergy between components.He probably likes Canare COAX as an IC also!
Wish he would explain his views better!
About the best thing I would credit him with is the creation of Lab in the great white north which can give good measurement results so consumers might have a basic reference for numbers.
Yoiu know I still feel the thing that makes wires sound different is the way the old Electrons pass through a conductor,but thats my theory.I did see a program on PBS about conductors where something like that was alluded to.They do have to bounce ariund through the conductor in order for them to make their way to the other side and the way they do that might effect the sound .
This cannot be proven and it is only my conjecture.I do think it should be considerd though.
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It seems to me that there is a certain school of thought that believes that all that can ever be known or measured with respect to electromagnetic propagation through wires for audio purposes and with respect to the amplification of audio signals is already known. I don’t have the technical background to pass judgment on the validity of this view point. I do know that I am inherently uncomfortable with a view point that believes that all that can ever be known about any particular subject is already known.This group seems to believe there is more to be discovered:
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~musiclab/music.html
Perhaps something interesting will come from them.BTW, are you the “Abex” of AR fame?
""believes that all that can ever be known or measured with respect to [[[electromagnetic propagation through wires for audio purposes and with respect to the amplification of audio signals]]] is already known""A timeless, classic phrase. Feel free to insert within [[[ ]]];
medicine, automobiles, computers, transistors, information storage, flight, physics, DNA, cancer research, light bulbs, rockets. The list goes on.
"The people who hold there beliefs are usually the first to become roadkill on the technology highway".
Measure all you want, to determine which parameters cause which audible effect will take the brain power. I still think isolating the audible difference takes very little brain power to devise the test configuration, just haven't seen the results though.
""Measure all you want, to determine which parameters cause which audible effect will take the brain power.""Agreed
I still think isolating the audible difference takes very little brain power to devise the test configuration, just haven't seen the results though.""
In the listening enviro, yes. I'm bound and determined to find a test in the electrical enviro.
John Es, have you run Hawksford's MATLAB simulation yet? I hope that you have it available to you, as I don't have it on my computer. Glad to see that you contacted Dr. Hawksford. Worked out well, didn't it?
I also do not have it on my computer. They tend to use a different math package here for magnetic and electrical analysis.Still discussing test techniques, possibilities with him.
It would appear my e-mailer did not forward my reply to you.
That will be rectified.
As for Dr. Hawksford....A very nice, articulate, scientifically minded individual. He is willing to question his methods and understanding of the topic, as well as clearly explain his analysis and reasons..Very pleasant to converse with.
Clearly a person we could all do well to emulate.
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