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In Reply to: Re: One more thing, while I'm at it. posted by rcrump on November 12, 2002 at 06:39:23:
Well, sounds like a dead issue then. Maybe someone else can come up with something worth talking about here.
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talk and not enough action toward advancing the knowledge base...
I've apparently been operating under the misunderstand for some time that the purpose of audio websites was to talk. Unfortunately, as a lay person, talk is about all I have to contribute. I certainly would not want my posts to further impede the progress of knowledge in the audio world (sarcasm clearly intended).The problem, from my perspective, is that the audio world seems largely divided into two camps, naysayers and yeasayers, and the attitude of each camp is you are either for us or against us – no in between allowed. I see that problem reflected both here and over at AR.
Unfortunately, that presents some problems for those of us who think we see problems with both camp. My experience and personal impression is that when a question is raised regarding a possible problem with some aspect to the views of a particular side, the person raising the issue is immediately seen as the enemy and is responded to accordingly. That is, the response is either one of lecturing the questioner with the full and complete dogma of the particular side to which the question was directed, or, attempting to discredit the questioner. Seldom does the specific question ever get addressed or dealt with in any reasonable manner, at least in my experience.
As I see, it there are many issues of disagreement in the audio world that seem like they could be discussed in rational, technical terms – issues such as sonic differences between cables and components, SACD vs. DVD-A vs. redbook, tubes vs. solid state, digital vs. analog, planar speakers vs. cone speakers vs. horn speakers, moving magnet cartridges vs. moving coil cartridges, linear tracking arms vs. pivoted arms, vacuum tables vs. non-vacuum tables, use of equalizers, value of electronic room correction, up-sampling vs. non up-sampling, triodes vs. pentodes, the value and limitations of DBTs, proper protocol and statistical analysis for DBTs, switching power supplies vs. standard supplies vs. battery supplies, value of power line conditioners, value of vibration isolation devices, single CD players vs. transport-DAC separates, quantum theory vs. classic theory, and many others I’m sure I have not thought of.
Some of these issues don’t carry a lot of emotional baggage, but many seem to, and one better be prepared to choose sides and hope that he can shout louder and longer than those on the other side of the issue.
Perhaps my view on this is way off. I hope so. Otherwise this forum will simply be nothing more than a mudslinging arena.
Come get me if you all resolve to seek the advancement of audio via finer measurements.....
It's the camp of get everyone good and upset at you.Come get me if you all resolve to seek the advancement of audio via finer measurements.....
No, Bob, you stay here. You have much more to contribute than I do. I think I had better stick with practicing law for the time being.
Phil, you are doing fine....I'll just get in trouble if I stay over here as I know what works for me and what I want and it isn't going to be forthcoming here.....Folks here are more interested in beauty contests more than ideal measured design parameters....
Why not start your own thread on testing. So far all you've done is jump into the middle of DBT type discussions.....
I will not allow this forum to degrade into personal issues.Your post is the type of thing that starts things on a downhill ride. If you haven't anything to add to the discussion, please refrain.
Excuse me? It was a legitimate suggestion to what he was seeking. Why don't you go read what I've been subjected to.
I will and I did. Thus far, I've seen a little of that, but I've also noticed that you've had a tendency to respond in kind which will eventually escalate without a doubt. My objective is to address that quickly and I will attempt to do it without bias either way.You can't control how others act, but you can avoid being a party to the problem. That's all I'm asking.
You'r reading WAY too much into my reply.
what I meant by I'm gone in my above post?.....
Yeah, maybe you shouldn't be here.
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