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In Reply to: Too many big topics! But I'll take a crack a few of them... posted by vacuous on September 22, 2021 at 12:54:40:
get their "news" from small, politically explicit blogs, social media. ONE mistake by MSM and it's held up to be some sort of conspiracy, as evidence of some evil, nefarious intent to mislead. When talking heads on Youtube and other social media conjure up and repeat lies, as a daily habit, they are never held to account, their followers either double down, convinced fact is fiction (or vice-versa) or just ignore it all. Cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias drive all of this.These unaccountable rumor spreaders never have to name a source--- and that's a very different situation from an established news agency that says it has a source that is "a government source that requests anonymity." The difference is an editor that holds the reporter responsible; that person's career is on the line for that story--- and he or she must have corroborative reports before publishing.
Ivermectin is a classic example: how many times have guys who foreswear MSM posted misinformation on this site, obviously crap they've read on social media? They still, even after many fellow inmates have corrected them, and sometimes they've even acknowledged they're mistakes, continue to parrot other equally bogus claims, "Okay, I was wrong about this and that--- but THIS is true!" (same source)
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- Here's my take on MSM: it's held to a very different standard by those who - tinear 15:01:32 09/22/21 (24)
- So the question is, which news sources are the most reliable? - vacuous 15:56:26 09/22/21 (23)
- The problem is confusing opinion with news. - ghost of olddude55 04:40:19 09/23/21 (22)
- That's a whole lot different than deliberate dissemination of disinformation. - vacuous 11:25:23 09/23/21 (21)
- But that's opinion. It's propaganda. - ghost of olddude55 12:51:11 09/23/21 (19)
- Nope (as I see it.) Opinion, however warped, is tolerable. Outright lies should never be tolerated. (nt) - vacuous 13:11:54 09/23/21 (18)
- I agree... opinion is "tolerable", but should be advertised as such... - dark_dave56 04:49:22 09/24/21 (0)
- But who watches the watchmen? - ghost of olddude55 13:38:45 09/23/21 (13)
- Who watches the watchmen? A free press does that job! It's the best way to hold govt to account. - vacuous 13:55:35 09/23/21 (12)
- But the problem is that people who eat up propaganda don't believe in the press is free. - ghost of olddude55 14:47:29 09/23/21 (10)
- RE: But the problem is that people who eat up propaganda don't believe in the press is free. - rivervalley817 15:28:47 09/23/21 (0)
- Yup. Can't stop a nation of dolts from drinking from a poisoned well... - vacuous 15:22:42 09/23/21 (8)
- You really think Congress is going to repeal the 1996 Telecommunications Act? - ghost of olddude55 16:01:08 09/23/21 (5)
- Well, there used to be something called the Fairness Doctrine. Lasted for decades. - vacuous 16:57:25 09/23/21 (4)
- We DO need the Fairness Doctrine back, but no way that's going to happen. nt. - MWE 18:36:40 09/23/21 (0)
- RE: Well, there used to be something called the Fairness Doctrine. Lasted for decades. - nilknarf 17:26:29 09/23/21 (2)
- EVERYONE has decisions made for them, often without being aware of it. It's an intrinsic part of life. nt. - MWE 18:40:55 09/23/21 (1)
- so true that. nt - nilknarf 18:50:33 09/23/21 (0)
- I read WaPo... - ghost of olddude55 15:48:50 09/23/21 (0)
- RE: Yup. Can't stop a nation of dolts from drinking from a poisoned well... - rivervalley817 15:30:48 09/23/21 (0)
- RE: Who watches the watchmen? A free press does that job! It's the best way to hold govt to account. - nilknarf 14:09:32 09/23/21 (0)
- RE: Nope (as I see it.) Opinion, however warped, is tolerable. Outright lies should never be tolerated. (nt) - nilknarf 13:26:42 09/23/21 (2)
- We're already there. - ghost of olddude55 13:42:23 09/23/21 (0)
- Now, THAT would be interesting. And likely the end of human society. nt. - MWE 13:34:00 09/23/21 (0)
- That would be ideal, but that genie is probably out of the bottle... - MWE 12:03:13 09/23/21 (0)