Steering is just one part of safety.

And is not hard on a recumbent, yes it is easy on a 'safety' bicycle, as we mostly do it by leaning.

But the bicycles being raced today are fundamentally unstable and the impacts on bodies due to their height are greater!

"it makes little sense to trade the ability to use upright body weight to assist power," hmmm - Enjoy your next fall? :-)

A high centre of gravity just is a bad idea. Dumb, IMO. And, 'stable in motion' is just nonsense. The system of rider up on top of a 'safety' bicycle is fundamentally unstable - all - the time. Moving or not.

We are consciously and unconsciously automatically stabilising the system, with bodily inputs all the time, because we must. And, this does chew up mind and muscle power. Even when it's habit.

This vital and demanding task just disappears on a tricycle and all but so, on a recumbent cycle.

More? There is a real cost in injuries, some permanently disabling, while this ancient and flawed design remains popular. Am I wrong here?

My basic issue is that the TDF and all racing of un'safety' bicycles is about an unquestioned and very costly tradition.

This is confirmed for me, by your macho? resistance to far safer HPVs.

Most people I know with recumbents commute on them because they will be safer. Most of them are young and can reason. And they seem manly enough to me. :-)

Ex-grunt, ex climber, ex-hunter and born questioner.

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Tim Bailey

Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger

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Topic - Anyone following the Tour de France this year? - free.ranger 17:56:43 07/19/17 (17)

I have this silly dream that one day there will be a TDF for truly safe recumbents: bicycles and tricycles. - Timbo in Oz 04:10:42 07/20/17 (8)

I cringe when there is a pileup. - FenderLover 06:50:52 07/20/17 (7)

RE: I cringe when there is a pileup. - JDK 16:26:23 07/20/17 (0)

RE: Hard to believe in the E.U., n'est ce pas? - kitch29 14:44:27 07/20/17 (4)

Bikes with teh rider a lot lower down would be a far better idea, no? - Timbo in Oz 03:27:58 07/21/17 (3)

RE: Bikes with teh rider a lot lower down would be a far better idea, no? - beach cruiser 12:31:19 07/21/17 (2)

Steering is just one part of safety. - Timbo in Oz 14:58:44 07/21/17 (1)

Up to apoint I agree, and if we lived in a country with more temperate climate .... - JDK 03:32:48 07/23/17 (0)

You get it! - Timbo in Oz 14:43:17 07/20/17 (0)

I tried but I couldn't keep up - AbeCollins 20:08:09 07/19/17 (1)

Rookie. nt - free.ranger 20:27:03 07/19/17 (0)

Yes, but my two favourites are out ;-( - JDK 18:51:40 07/19/17 (5)

Sagan was absolutely screwed - Sondek 09:12:55 07/20/17 (1)

RE: Sagan was absolutely screwed - pictureguy 11:48:56 07/20/17 (0)

I like the post stage analyses. - free.ranger 19:27:57 07/19/17 (2)

RE: I like the post stage analyses. - JDK 22:37:38 07/19/17 (1)

I used to watch - beach cruiser 03:57:08 07/21/17 (0)

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Steering is just one part of safety. - Timbo in Oz 14:58:44 07/21/17 (1)

Up to apoint I agree, and if we lived in a country with more temperate climate .... - JDK 03:32:48 07/23/17 (0)

Steering is just one part of safety.

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