Once I had the bugs out of the PP 6bq5 amp it did not take very long to hook everything back up to do the A/B test between them as I had done with the 45 and 813 SE amps vs the SE 6bq5. If you recall I said in that thread that I did not really hear a difference between the three amps when I had set them up so that I the amps hot two at a time and could switch between them by pushing one button. Therefore I was really anxious to see if I could hear a difference between PP and an SE 6bq5 set up the same way. The short answer is yes I definitely could. The surprising part is that the differences were pretty much what I have always heard and read. The PP amp sounded a bit more clinical in that it was a drier sounding amp. Another thing I noticed right off was that the SE amp gave the music rounded edges while the PP amp left them sharp or clean. I only have tried a few types of music so far and need to do a lot more listening before I could tell you which one I prefer.
Now we come to the part where I roll a grenade into the room and see how much trouble I can cause. From what I have learned from this exercise so far I would have to say that it appears to me that the real difference in how these two types of amps sound is due more to whether they are PP or SE than the type of tube they use. This agrees with several articles I have read in the past and I am now inclined to agree with them. I have a lot more testing and listening to due, but my experience has been that first impressions are usually the best ones for this, so we'll see how it goes.
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Topic - Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - vinnie2 06:07:41 06/23/17 (49)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - 91derlust 14:51:14 06/24/17 (16)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - vinnie2 15:23:07 06/24/17 (15)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - 91derlust 00:21:30 06/27/17 (14)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - vinnie2 04:02:16 06/27/17 (13)
- Audio Note Ongaku vs Kegon - Lew 07:39:44 07/03/17 (3)
- RE: Audio Note Ongaku vs Kegon - vinnie2 18:38:49 07/03/17 (2)
- RE: Audio Note Ongaku vs Kegon - Lew 10:50:53 07/04/17 (1)
- RE: Audio Note Ongaku vs Kegon - vinnie2 12:17:55 07/04/17 (0)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - 91derlust 13:20:50 06/27/17 (8)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - vinnie2 14:13:17 06/27/17 (7)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - 91derlust 00:33:51 06/28/17 (6)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - vinnie2 04:17:58 06/28/17 (5)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - 91derlust 22:29:45 06/28/17 (0)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - TomWh 11:28:07 06/28/17 (3)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - vinnie2 15:34:36 06/28/17 (2)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - TomWh 20:47:26 06/28/17 (1)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - vinnie2 15:41:24 06/29/17 (0)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - hahax@verizon.net 19:30:38 06/23/17 (19)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - Tre' 19:42:27 06/23/17 (18)
- RE: Initial A/B test between PP and SE 6bq5 amps - amnesiac 05:45:46 07/02/17 (0)
- triode wired KT88 - Tre' 19:43:23 06/23/17 (16)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - hahax@verizon.net 04:10:44 06/24/17 (15)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - Palustris 10:23:19 06/24/17 (1)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - hahax@verizon.net 20:17:00 06/24/17 (0)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - Tre' 08:00:27 06/24/17 (1)
- if you want to have some fun... - PakProtector 16:25:18 06/24/17 (0)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - vinnie2 05:21:52 06/24/17 (10)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - tube wrangler 10:56:52 06/24/17 (9)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - cpotl 12:18:14 06/24/17 (6)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - tube wrangler 21:17:26 06/24/17 (3)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - cpotl 21:52:06 06/26/17 (0)
- you are a fine Salesman, Dennis - PakProtector 02:49:13 06/25/17 (0)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - Tre' 22:44:29 06/24/17 (0)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - PakProtector 16:02:14 06/24/17 (1)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - Tre' 17:37:48 06/24/17 (0)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - vinnie2 11:51:47 06/24/17 (1)
- RE: triode wired KT88 - tube wrangler 21:26:49 06/24/17 (0)
- Er, what speakers are you using to discern these differences, Vinnie?~nT - Cleantimestream 15:55:48 06/23/17 (1)
- RE: Er, what speakers are you using to discern these differences, Vinnie?~nT - vinnie2 15:59:24 06/23/17 (0)
- My experience is the opposite - DAK 12:36:16 06/23/17 (9)
- RE: My experience is the opposite - Tre' 15:50:32 06/23/17 (7)
- RE: My experience is the opposite - DAK 16:41:47 06/23/17 (3)
- RE: My experience is the opposite - Tre' 18:48:40 06/23/17 (2)
- My amps are mostly pentode wired outputs - DAK 19:35:23 06/23/17 (1)
- RE: My amps are mostly pentode wired outputs - Tre' 20:02:33 06/23/17 (0)
- RE: My experience is the opposite - PakProtector 16:19:00 06/23/17 (2)
- RE: My experience is the opposite - Tre' 18:37:13 06/23/17 (1)
- RE: My experience is the opposite - PakProtector 11:31:34 06/24/17 (0)
- doesn't sound opposite to me..... - vinnie2 13:15:57 06/23/17 (0)