I recently built myself some 'Zero Baffle' spkrs, using:
* 4x SB Acoustics 'Satori' 6 1/2" mid/bass drivers
* and 1x Satori tweeter.See pic:
They are 2-way active - XOs and extensive EQing is provided by my miniDSP nanoDIGI - and they hand over to subs at a choice of frequencies stored in the nanoDIGI (48dB L-R slopes): 90Hz, 110Hz, 130Hz and 150Hz.They sound terrific but, as a result of a friend bringing over some CDs to have a listen ... I've been made aware of a problem that I would like to get fixed.
I did an experiment - using my sig-gen to feed various frequencies into the mid/bass drivers. Level was set quite high - and, starting with the sub XO set to 90Hz, I slowly wound the frequency up from 80Hz to 400Hz.
The steel frame resonated at 130Hz; changing the sub XO to 110Hz reduced the buzz a bit - upping the XO frequ to 130Hz decreased it a bit more ... and increasing the XO point to 150Hz removed the buzz (as 130Hz was now going into the sub).
My question to the brains trust is ... what do I need to do, to lower the resonant frequency of the frame which supports the drivers? (Ideally to below 90Hz!)
Now, the frame which the drivers are bolted to is as follows - made from 5mm x 13mm steel flat, bolted to a 20mm thick base, which stops them falling over. See here:
(There are 2 of these 'Us' for each spkr; sorry the pic has come out so small. :-(( )It seems to me I have 2 options:
1. use a denser material than steel - say, bronze or brass 'flats'.
2. or increase the mass of the frame - so have solid sides instead of a frame made from flats.Can anyone suggest the pros & cons of each?
Thanks,
Andy
Edits: 05/13/22
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Topic - How to lower the resonant frequency of a structure? - andyr 21:39:29 05/12/22 (47)
- RE: How to lower the resonant frequency of a structure? - tomservo 06:23:38 11/06/22 (0)
- RE: How to lower the resonant frequency of a structure? - pictureguy 22:53:44 08/09/22 (19)
- Steel vs aluminum - geoffkait 03:28:29 08/10/22 (18)
- RE: Steel vs aluminum - pictureguy 08:38:55 08/10/22 (17)
- RE: Steel vs aluminum - geoffkait 09:41:21 08/10/22 (16)
- RE: Steel vs aluminum - pictureguy 12:00:18 08/10/22 (15)
- RE: Steel vs aluminum - geoffkait 12:19:23 08/10/22 (14)
- RE: Steel vs aluminum - pictureguy 14:03:48 08/10/22 (13)
- RE: Steel vs aluminum - geoffkait 04:52:27 08/11/22 (12)
- RE: Steel vs aluminum - pictureguy 11:13:43 08/11/22 (11)
- Yikes! - geoffkait 03:47:20 08/12/22 (10)
- RE: Yikes! - pictureguy 11:48:37 08/12/22 (9)
- RE: Yikes! - geoffkait 16:40:19 08/12/22 (8)
- RE: Yikes! - pictureguy 12:22:35 08/15/22 (7)
- Never? - geoffkait 14:43:36 08/15/22 (6)
- RE: Never? - pictureguy 15:07:43 08/15/22 (5)
- RE: Never? - geoffkait 05:58:12 08/16/22 (4)
- RE: Never? - pictureguy 11:10:37 08/16/22 (3)
- How much? - geoffkait 12:58:02 08/16/22 (2)
- RE: How much? - pictureguy 15:17:14 08/16/22 (1)
- Porpoise - geoffkait 03:50:23 08/17/22 (0)
- RE: An update! ... - andyr 04:48:58 07/03/22 (8)
- RE: An update! ... - pictureguy 13:34:09 07/26/23 (2)
- RE: An update! ... - sony6060 05:15:56 07/27/23 (1)
- RE: An update! ... - geoffkait 07:29:37 07/27/23 (0)
- RE: An update! ... - neolith 08:10:15 08/08/22 (2)
- RE: Hah - yes, indeed! ... - andyr 15:23:17 08/09/22 (1)
- RE: Hah - yes, indeed! ... - pictureguy 15:50:52 08/10/22 (0)
- RE: An update! ... - geoffkait 06:42:49 07/07/22 (0)
- Not surprised - Analog Scott 01:14:01 07/07/22 (0)
- To lower the resonant frequency you make them longer - Analog Scott 12:02:37 06/18/22 (0)
- RE: How to lower the resonant frequency of a structure? - Davey 08:30:43 05/19/22 (1)
- RE: "Why not mount the drivers on a proper baffle ..." ... - andyr 15:43:43 05/19/22 (0)
- Mass load the frame - Dave_K 14:08:55 05/18/22 (9)
- RE: "Well, I tried mass-loading" ... - andyr 04:19:30 06/07/22 (6)
- actually what you did is not in conflict with how mass loading works - Analog Scott 18:27:16 06/19/22 (2)
- RE: "You also changed the compliance of the structure" ... - andyr 05:14:35 06/21/22 (1)
- How to dampen slender vertical structures using mass - geoffkait 05:55:11 07/16/22 (0)
- RE: "Well, I tried mass-loading" ... - geoffkait 06:33:07 06/08/22 (2)
- RE: "Well, I tried mass-loading" ... - andyr 15:00:08 06/08/22 (1)
- Definition of terms - geoffkait 08:20:18 06/09/22 (0)
- RE: Mass load the frame - andyr 15:54:11 05/18/22 (1)
- RE: Mass load the frame - geoffkait 04:43:07 05/19/22 (0)
- The same way you stop a tuning fork from vibrating. - geoffkait 04:00:47 05/14/22 (3)
- RE: Thank you Geoff ... - andyr 18:56:05 05/14/22 (2)
- The only good vibration is a dead vibration. Nt - geoffkait 15:19:08 05/18/22 (0)
- RE: Thank you Geoff ... - geoffkait 02:42:37 05/15/22 (0)