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Spinning: Acoustic Alchemy "Red Dust & Spanish Lace"

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Posted on June 3, 2020 at 15:33:59
Sondek
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Just love this record. Had the privilege to see these guys at Caravan of Dreams in Ft. Worth on their "Blue Chip" release tour. Caravan was an amazing place. Sadly the band and Caravan are no more.

 

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Tis a great LP but i do beleive they are still alive and strong and, posted on June 3, 2020 at 16:12:55
popsy
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 were touring before the Virus stuff...check out their website...

 

RE: Tis a great LP but i do beleive they are still alive and strong and, posted on June 3, 2020 at 16:18:06
Sondek
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 I thought one of the two principals of the original duo had died several years ago.

I'll look into that.

 

RE: Tis a great LP but i do beleive they are still alive and strong and, posted on June 3, 2020 at 16:28:03
Sondek
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 Reporting back: according to Wikipedia, Nick Webb, one of the founding duo, did pass on in1998.

What's out there since their "Positive Thinking" release was reconstructed from the remnant of the band and new players.

Webb was the front-man.

 

Ah ok, have you listened to the newer stuff?, posted on June 3, 2020 at 18:15:26
popsy
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 n/t

 

Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 3, 2020 at 18:29:07
JazzDude
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 Wow, Caravan of Dreams! It was gorgeous when built, way ahead of its time. The rooftop, as I recall, had a far-out outdoor garden but I left TX in 1984 so my recollection might be incorrect. Shortly after they opened, I saw Ft. Worth's own T-Bone Burrnett in concert there.

I purchased some components from Marvin Audio while living there.

Sondek, thanks for your post which has me recollecting a good memory. About what year did the Caravan close? Hey, just noticed you have CAT Renaissance Black Path. How do you like it? I have a CAT Ultimate II. I do like it except wish it had less gain.

 

RE: Ah ok, have you listened to the newer stuff?, posted on June 3, 2020 at 18:53:27
Sondek
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 No, have not.

Is good stuff? Could you recommend one?

Thx

 

RE: Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 3, 2020 at 19:18:02
Sondek
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 Yeah, at one point in the late'80s they thad the largest collection of different species of succulent plants in the US in that rooftop garden. It was so cool to be up there at sunset when the view to the West was still unobstructed. Watching the sunset and having a drink before you dropped downstairs for a show. We saw a lot of great artists there. Masekela, Los Lobos, Roy Ayers, and on and on. It had a reputation for being a spot where artists tuned up their acts before heading out for a tour. And with the recording studio and theater upstairs, it was just an amazing place.

It closed ~2000. The tornado that year wiped out what was the Bank One building. A local favorite restaurant called the Riata was in the B1 building and was going to be forced to close. The Bass family offered the space that Caravan had to that damned restaurant and that was all she wrote for the Caravan of Dreams. I'm still pissed.

I plan to be buried with my SL1. Does your Ultimate have the line section high/low gain toggles on the board? Guessing it doesn't. The Renaissance has high/low switch, and from memory, I think the high setting give 20db gain, and the low is like 12db. The MC phono has, I think, 52db. Using MC phono and low line setting, when I switch from CD to phono, or vice versa I do not have to adjust the gain knob.

 

RE: Spinning: Acoustic Alchemy "Red Dust & Spanish Lace", posted on June 3, 2020 at 22:22:37
M3Man
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 I think I paid a buck for this album, maybe ywo in a used record store here in Taos. Its a fun listen.

I also remember the Caravan. I saw The Band there without Robbie Robertson, shortly before the place closed. It was quite cool.

 

Love Acoustic Alchemy, posted on June 4, 2020 at 09:32:13
padreken
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 I saw them on I believe the same tour, at Humphreys's Concerts in San Diego. Glad I got hear them before Nick Webb passed away-Greg Carmichael has carried on and the music they've done since is good, but there was a special sound that he and Nick had together. A buddy found a copy of Blue Chip on vinyl and I heard it recently, it sounds great.




 

RE: Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 4, 2020 at 12:01:28
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 I saw Fort Worth's own Ornette Coleman provide the music for an avant-garde play at the Caravan of Dreams. Coleman and his band Prime Time opened the club. I was not there for that gig, but have the LP from it.

For what it's worth, I think it was going to close regardless of the tornado/Riata situation. Ed Bass had been bankrolling it from the get go.

Ciao,




"Anyone who understands jazz knows that you can't understand it. It's too complicated. That's what's so simple about it." - Yogi Berra.

Cpwill

 

RE: Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 4, 2020 at 12:18:10
Sondek
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 You are correct. It was not a money maker, but not a huge money loser either and more or less pocket change to Ed.

Suffice it to say I REALLY miss it.

Although the new Bass performing facility (Bass Hall) is very nice, but just not my cup of tea in the way Caravan was.

 

RE: Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 4, 2020 at 18:18:31
JazzDude
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 Hey Sondek thanks for the info on The Caravan. And a wow to M3Man for seeing The Band there. And Cpwill, you saw Ornette! Recently I acquired a bunch of his early albums which are so good. Listened to his Town Hall Concert from 1962 on ESP 2 nights ago. I am unfamiliar with the play you refer to. What is the title and catalog number of the LP you you have?

Per CAT Ultimates. No, they don't have the gain selection options that your Renaissance has. From what I understand your Renaissance is a superb product. Right now I live about 70 miles from CAT's home.

 

They are among my favorites, posted on June 4, 2020 at 23:34:43
Stale
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 Listened them live in Chicago years ago. Have Red dust.., Blue Chip, and Natural Elements vinyl, latest being my favorite. Plus few CDs.



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RE: Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 5, 2020 at 11:51:56
Cpwill
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 My DC-based architecture firm was the design architects for Bass Hall. I was the project manager. I have be blessed to have worked on it and other performance venues. It was never intended to be a venue to replace the Caravan. Ones a Multi-purpose Theater the other a club. BH will never feel like a jazz club, it's not one. But it is pretty darn good for symphonic and other classical music, opera, and other and a variety of other acts. Lyle Lovett and his Large Band sounded excellent and generated enough excitement to fill the room.

Ciao,




"Anyone who understands jazz knows that you can't understand it. It's too complicated. That's what's so simple about it." - Yogi Berra.

Cpwill

 

RE: Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 5, 2020 at 12:44:29
Sondek
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 BH is an outstanding venue, but you nailed it. Caravan was an intimate club, and Bass Hall a symphony hall.

Two big league symphony halls within 25 miles of me, but no place like the Caravan.

The Mortatorium, aka Morton Meyerson Symphony Center is pretty impressive, but prefer Bass Hall. But then I prefer Ft. Worth in general.

Will Rogers once said: Ft. Worth is where the West begins, and Dallas is where the East peters-out. It's still true almost a hundred years later.

Just wish we still had the Caravan. It was a special place.

 

RE: Caravan of Dreams, posted on June 6, 2020 at 17:12:28
Sondek
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 A discogs link to Caravan Of Dreams catalog.

Warning: Could lead to impulse buying.

 

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