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Best record brush ?

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Posted on May 21, 2020 at 03:01:32
Story
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I've been using a Decca short bristle brush for many years but wondering what's new and maybe better today?



 

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RE: Best record brush ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 04:49:09
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I anticipate lots of recommendation for the new Audioquest brush. I am not going to do this but would recommend instead trying to find an NOS sample of the old brush which is far more efficient at removing debris if less efficient at dealing with static.

The Hunt brush is also good if you know how to use it.
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RE: Best record brush ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 05:57:55
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I've been using the three brush Japanese Wasanbon system for four years now. It is time consuming and takes some attention but I love it and have no desire to use anything else for daily record care. Rather than explain each brush individually I'll simply include a link to a review. After four years the brushes are still in good shape but I would like to buy another set. As far as I can tell they are only available through Jico Stylus in Japan. I like this product enough that I am willing to jump through a hoop or two to acquire another set.

https://www.monoandstereo.com/2016/10/jico-stylus-wasanbon-record-cleaner.html

https://www.jico-stylus.com/

 

Hunt EDA VI...nt, posted on May 21, 2020 at 06:07:01
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Venerable AudioQuest carbon fiber brush., posted on May 21, 2020 at 06:30:59
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Been using one for many years.





Opus 33 1/3

 

Link here, posted on May 21, 2020 at 06:34:45
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May be effective but looks a little time consuming. Too complex for me.

 

I've got an old AcousTech. I think it's the same brush with a different logo. nt, posted on May 21, 2020 at 06:48:03
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nt



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Levin Design..., posted on May 21, 2020 at 07:39:49
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Antil-static, effective.
Open up your mind, in pours the trash. - Meat Puppets, 1987

 

RE: Best record brush ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 10:06:36
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Let's face it. From what I can see, none of the brushes, even the expensive ones with beautiful wood handles, do a really effective job. No matter what technique you use, there always seems to be some dust not captured by the brush. If your records are clean, this probably doesn't matter and will not impair the sound. But for those of us who are anal, those few specs of dust bother us. Ridiculous? Probably.

I have been experimenting with the Giotto Rocket Blower (large) used mostly for dusting camera lenses and computer parts. I've found this this be the most effective solution yet for record dust. It does, however, take some practice to get the technique down. With the record spinning, I position the bulb towards the center with the tip pointing out and then quickly squeeze several times while I swipe the bulb towards the record's edge. I do this several times. I've also tried positioning the blower at the center and angling it out towards the edge without moving it. It only takes a few seconds. I have found this to work quite well removing more dust than any brush I've used. It also is excellent for developing muscles in your forearm!

One note of caution: be careful not to touch the record or you will scratch it! I have done this already! As I indicated, I'm still experimenting. Whether I will use this all the time is unclear.

For those who say, you're just blowing the dust somewhere else, I would reply, why does it matter? There's dust everywhere; at least you're removing it from the record.

Isn't it amazing that with computers talking and men on the moon, that they haven't been able to come up with an effective solution for cleaning dust off a record?

 

What brush did your Levin replace? For you, did it remove dust, posted on May 21, 2020 at 11:26:10
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and eliminate static at the same time? Thanks.

 

RE: Best record brush ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 11:40:26
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It looks like my mom's old enema dispenser. Anybody else try it on records?



 

RE: Best record brush ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 11:46:10
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Not sure if the Rocket is approved for this use but I suppose it couldn't hurt to try. On second thought.......

 

RE: Best record brush ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 11:48:04
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RE: Best record brush ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 12:51:11
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The Wasanbon brushes clean my records of dust beautifully.
I have a bright light over my TT that allows me to see any residual bits.
I rarely have any.
Trouble is I'm not able to find it for purchase anymore.

 

RE: Hunt EDA VI, posted on May 21, 2020 at 15:10:44
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Yes, but as I said below you have to know how to use it. Most people who took up vinyl replay after the 1980s do not.

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Furutech SK-III, posted on May 21, 2020 at 15:47:27
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Expensive on the face of it but lasts forever. Probably the easiest brush to use and removes dust and doesn't increase static. The Audioquest type brushes are good but can get fiddly to clear the dust especially if you've got cold hands and the new iteration with the metal bar are nowhere near as well made as the old ones and the slight design change has made them too awkward for my liking.

 

Ursa Major!, posted on May 21, 2020 at 15:56:50
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Got one a year or so ago and never looked back. Anti static and picks up the dust.

 

Discwasher, posted on May 21, 2020 at 16:35:56
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Nothing I've ever used beats a Discwasher brush with some form of liquid agent, be it no-rinse record cleaning fluid or some h2o. Nothing.





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Decca (nt), posted on May 21, 2020 at 19:45:00
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washer, posted on May 21, 2020 at 21:42:10
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nope, not close. for washing records, a SpinClean is better, an ultrasonic the best, vpi type in between.

for dry brushing just before play to take off the surface dust, a carbon fiber brush. the original Decca was THE best with the finest bristles. later ones, including the aq had larger diameter bristles, not as effective.

i got a Realistic from the Shack that had the finer bristles like the Decca and i still use it today.

the newest aq may be better than the old one, i haven't checked.
...regards...tr

 

replace? , posted on May 21, 2020 at 22:00:47
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bill, the bristles on that levin are to coarse. if you can find a decca or just maybe but the newest AQ.
...regards...tr

 

RE: Best ?, posted on May 21, 2020 at 22:52:15
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in looking around i found the Ortofon Record Brush: Anti-static Record Brush with Sheath. it looks to me that it would be easier to handle and just as or more effective as the other CF brushes. $29. no shipping from Sweetwater.
...regards...tr

 

I was just curious. I use the older Audioquest brush and used to , posted on May 21, 2020 at 23:52:01
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use the Hunt EDA brush. I am always up for a new idea, and that's why I asked my question.

I started with the Watts preener, then switched to the Discwasher brush with fluid.

I do not like the new Audioquest brush, as it seems ineffective.

 

I have tried a few., posted on May 22, 2020 at 05:41:10
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The Hunt, AudioQuest, other dry brushes. What I found works best but it's not really a dry brush is the LAST Deep Clean brush with three drops of fluid. This is the best that I used so far. The Last picks up everything loose on the record and is dead quiet when playing the LP's

 

+1 on the Last ..., posted on May 22, 2020 at 10:49:54
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That's the same routine I've used for as long as I can remember.

I've never found a satisfactory dry brush and I've tried a lot of them ...and still own one or two.

Dean.






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Not for washing records, posted on May 22, 2020 at 12:37:31
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but for removing some or even a bit more of dust or lint or whatever it is that gets on records.

I've tried Audioquest and Hunt several times and I have never, ever been able to not have a fine line of debris that I had to use my Discwasher or even the Nitty Gritty, both used with a liquid, to remove said debris.
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RE: Not for washing records, posted on May 22, 2020 at 14:39:43
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i use a realistic CF dry brush. unlike hp's method , i do an exit sweep every time and no residual line.

i never thought the Hunt was a good idea. the original Decca Brush had very fine beistles and so does my Realistic. better than most other CF brushes....for me.
...regards...tr

 

RE: +2 on the Last ..., posted on May 22, 2020 at 15:35:55
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Agreed. I've been using Last brushes along with Last record cleaner for decades and along way have tried more dry brushes than I should have.

These days I'm dispensing the Last liquid on the Last brush with a small pump spray bottle (eyeglass cleaner size) and find that I like that regimen much better than putting two or three drops on the brush and then moving the liquid around.



"Lesser artists borrow, great artists steal." Igor Stravinsky

 

Wasanbon brushes discontinued, posted on May 23, 2020 at 03:46:58
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Hello.
Thanks for contacting JICO.
We are sorry but the product is discontinued.
I apologize that we cannot meet your expectation.
Best regards,
Ryo SASAKI, JICO team


Bummer

 

RE: Best record brush ?, posted on June 1, 2020 at 19:55:06
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Large black makeup brush for $1.25 at Dollar Tree. The medium mascara is an excellent stylus brush, with its long handle.

Best bang for your $$$.

 

curious., posted on June 9, 2020 at 13:35:17
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yes bill, i also started with a preener (which also has directionality but less than a Discwasher). the preener i would spray with a fine atomizer containing distilled water.

problem: water plus dust = mud. so many of my records fell victim to that. a dry sweep of the carbon fiber (Audioquest, Decca, etc) is excellent for otherwise very clean records. those that aren't need a SpinClean wash, vpi, or uS cleaning.

i was never a fan of the Hunt type brush. that's just me.
...regards...tr

 

RE: Best record brush ?, posted on June 14, 2020 at 17:34:07
If it is the two row of bristles type Decca brush, I found that one very good.

I also like Sleeve City brush.

The brushes on many are too long, and bend flat, and just move the dust rather than pick it up.

 

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