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Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner

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Posted on May 11, 2017 at 10:34:29
Peter C
Audiophile

Posts: 181
Joined: February 2, 2002
 Does anyone have this motor controller/tachometer combo they'd be willing to sell? What alternatives are out there? I can't find anything that provides actionable feedback to the power supply. Failing the active feedback, I know there's VPI SDS, now being decommissioned, the new ADS, an upcoming Super ADS with read-only tach, the Walker controller. I'd need something powerful enough for the 7.5 watt draw for my VPI 300 rpm motor.

 

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Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner alternative out there?, posted on May 11, 2017 at 11:20:17
Shep
Audiophile

Posts: 249
Location: Southeast U.S.
Joined: March 13, 2001
 This from Bill (Phoenix Engineering) in an ADS Owners thread since shutterd on the VPI forums...

"There will soon be a low cost DIY kit available that makes what you're doing look like a crank up gramophone."

No idea what this referes to but maybe there's a DIY PS kit coming?

I have the ADS & returned it to service the transformer noise issue. It's still audible at close range but not nearly as loud as originally received. PE closed shop before I had a chance to try their equipment and the ADS was the only remaining option for my Prime TT.

 

Interesting news about the kit, posted on May 11, 2017 at 11:53:04
Lew
Audiophile

Posts: 10911
Location: Bethesda, Maryland
Joined: December 11, 2000
 If Bill Carlin (of Phoenix Eng) got out of the business because of its inherent aggravations, I would think he will like the customer feedback derived from selling a DIY kit to audiophiles even less.

 

This is the kit, posted on May 11, 2017 at 16:02:04
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
Audiophile

Posts: 3040
Location: Atlanta
Joined: December 15, 2003
 Hope it is OK to post a thread from DIYaudio -

This is as close to a kit as I suspect you will see.

Doesn't look too complicated.

It is not an Eagle, this was made clear by Pyramid, but I bet it is real close.

I am grateful to say I have an Eagle.

 

RE: Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner alternative out there?, posted on May 11, 2017 at 18:31:40
MDW
Manufacturer

Posts: 13
Location: America
Joined: November 11, 2013
 Even though I didn't appreciate his tone, I always appreciate DIY projects whether we (VPI team) agree with it or not. After all, that is how VPI started as a DIY dream in someone's basement.

 

RE: Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner alternative out there?, posted on May 13, 2017 at 12:25:46
twystd
Audiophile

Posts: 2723
Location: Austin,Texas
Joined: December 9, 2000
 See my post above: "Yet another Variable Frequency Motor Drive For TTs update (long)"

twystd

 

RE: Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner, posted on May 18, 2017 at 10:40:17
rascal33
Audiophile

Posts: 29
Joined: May 18, 2017
 I'm glad I have the Eagle/Roadrunner combo but if I was in the market for a motor controller I would probably look for a used SDS if I couldn't find the Phoenix combo. I heard that they are identical in sound quality.

 

RE: Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner, posted on May 18, 2017 at 15:06:10
collinslaw@fuse.net
Audiophile

Posts: 524
Location: Northern Kentucky
Joined: August 5, 2011
 In a direct comparison, I could not hear a difference with my tnthr6 hotrod. The tach indicated that the Phoenix was more accurate in the third place, but I could not tell anything. It is rim-drive, so that may have made a difference.
Tom Collins

 

Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner vs. VPI SDS - Test Results, posted on May 21, 2017 at 08:24:27
JerryS
Reviewer

Posts: 2026
Joined: February 24, 2001

Please see link below.

Happy listening.

Regards,
JerryS

 

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