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Recommendations please: good tuner with remote

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Posted on June 15, 2004 at 02:52:11
BaddaBob
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The tuner info site is a great resource but a lot of the more highly ranked tuners are vintage models with no remote. I am shopping around for a good newer model AM/FM tuner for $500 or less (used or new) with a remote. I do not use an antenna but would be plugging it into my cable connection, which carries all the radio stations I need. There can be signal drift at times.

 

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New Denon tu1500ru, posted on June 15, 2004 at 07:44:46
blueingreen
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You will notice that Denon has a traditionof making great vintage tuners as well as their newer offering.

TU-1500RD
AM/FM/FM Stero tuner • Auto preset FM memory • Rotary tuning knob • High legibility dot matrix FL display • 40 station random AM/FM memory • Dot Matrix alpha-numeric display • Radio Data System (RDS) with Radio Text function • Wide/Narrow IF selectivity control • Infrared remote sensor eye on front panel • Manual character input; station name (8 characters) • Low impedance output (100 ohms) • Optional RC-824 infrared remote • SRP $375

I love mine... I didn't get the optional remote though. It sounds very close to my much beloved Kyocera T-910.

 

Re: Recommendations please: good tuner with remote, posted on June 15, 2004 at 08:35:04
patk


 
I agree with the other poster that Denon seems to make some nice reasonably priced tuners. I demoed an Arcam T51 (replaced by the T61, $450) and that was quite good. Another one to consider is the NAD C422. I believe it is around $250-300.

You may also check to see if you can pick up a Rega Radio 2000 or Radio 3 on the used market. New around $700. Good reviews in the UK publications (ie HiFi Choice).

 

lots of choices, posted on June 15, 2004 at 09:23:57
MarkCR
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There appears to be lots of choices, especially if you are willing to go used and visit the tuner info site a lot. I have an Onkyo 4700 in one system and a magnum dynalab in another. While the dyna is better, the difference is not really marked unless you really sit and compare. The cost difference is probably over 5:1.

Unlike many other areas of stereo technology, tuner technology does not seem to have gotten much better in the last 15 years, or at least, it seems that way to me. Creates a buyers market.


My Onkyo has a remote - does not do volume, but does do the key presets and reception matters. You can probably pick one up for pretty cheap if you shop around. Tuners made after 88 to 90 should have remotes.

Printed below is the tuner info site reviews of 2 onkyos. As you can see the price is right.

Onkyo T-4700 (1990, $450, photo) - Honorable mention. The T-4700 is a digital tuner that appears to be similar to the T-4087, but supposedly doesn't sound quite as good. It has the equivalent of 5 gangs and 4 ceramic filters, switchable wide and narrow IF bandwidth settings, tuning in .25 mHz steps, and a remote control. We suspect that it might be a great DX tuner with narrower filters installed. Three T-4700s sold for $150-256 on eBay in 3-5/02.

Onkyo T-4711 (1996, $600, black, gold) - Honorable mention. A digital tuner with excellent sensitivity and selectivity, the T-4711 has 6 ceramic filters and is a great tuner for DXing, especially when modified. It was available in a typical black cabinet or in a “50th anniversary limited edition” gold cabinet. The T-4711 has switchable wide and narrow IF bandwidth settings, a hi-blend switch, fine tuning in 25 kHz steps, a timer and a remote control. It also has RDS (Radio Data System), described in the T-4310 writeup above. The T-4711 usually sells for $250-395 on eBay, with a high of $425 in 6/03 when two guys ran it up from $270.

Finally, not as cheap, but cooler looking, the new Halo tuner is supposed to be very good. You might check audiogon to find a decent price.

 

Re: Recommendations please: good tuner with remote, posted on June 15, 2004 at 09:39:41
Nglazer
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Marantz ST-17. Not much inferior to my MD FT 101-A, but about 1/3 less the price.

Neal

 

Re: Recommendations please: good tuner with remote, posted on June 15, 2004 at 14:54:31
TL
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If you want to go really cheap, a new Technics T-H300 micro tuner can be had for $70. Actually not a bad sounding unit. Remote is optional. For more money, you can get a Cambridge Audio T500. Similar in sound to the much more expensive Creek tuners. Should be able to get them for $250. Again, remote's optional.

Thomas

 

from Cable?!!!!, posted on June 15, 2004 at 19:03:02
Timbo in Oz
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Seriously, you may well run into all sortsa problems with this, hum and noise for one. the HUM can be adrressed by an isoltaing tarnnie in the feed line, good commercial ones around $100, or you build one.

Noise and spuriae. Very few modern FM tuners have good rejection of Out of Band RF, and you will have heaps of that on the cable.

Yr cable coy, may be willing to help with advice and filters but then again from what I hear from others you may be stuck, even if they are helpful. IF you like do abit of search around at the Yahoo FM group on 'cable' and read about the probs people have had.

When we discuss the performance of an antennae into a rcvr (RF talk) we talk about 'the antenna and feed line' as having a characteristic 'noise figure'. Your cable company's line is likely to have a quite poor noise figure, and it will be carrying a much wider RF bandwidth, than a dedicated FM only antenna and line.

So, you may not be able to get the ROI you expect on $500, and of which the tuner is capable of.

My advice to you is to give it a try out, using a known good tuner borrowed from an audio buddy, who does use a serious directional antenna mounted to minimise its noise performance on that tuner, and thus knows what the performance should be on known sources. Both of you listen, at yr home, to the cable connection option with his tuner. Then you'll know how much shit you're pushing up the hill, beforehand.

Then, if the resutls are as poor as I am suggetsing might apply, try an ordinary dipole behind a curtain or across the top of a wooden pelmet, suitably oriented.

This way you can more usefully consider yr budget and what to spend it on, incl an antenna.

Oh, and on the Mommism front, aka /=> WAF in audiophile circles, it IS yr home too! Isn't it? Just check if yr cojones are still there first, and wear a box.



Timbo in Oz
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that might leave $$ over, for an antenna, too, posted on June 15, 2004 at 19:05:35
Timbo in Oz
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Thanks Guys!, posted on June 16, 2004 at 02:47:29
BaddaBob
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Terrific responses. Timbo, cojones are not a problem - money is. Was not aware that radio over cable was so inferior. I usually only listen to the radio as background and as a source of new music to buy so I do not expect to get high end sound. However, great info.

Many thanks to the rest of you for the great suggestions. Right now I have a Rotel receiver I am using as a pre/tuner hooked up to my amp (Bryston 3BSST). The Rotel doesn't sound too bad actually, but I will be getting a dedicated pre some time in the next 6 months and would like to get a tuner since it would gobble less power, throw less heat, and take up less space. Would be looking to buy the tuner and interconnects used for about whatever I can get for the Receiver on Audiogon - (Rotel RX1050 100 wpc - maybe about $500)

 

Re: Recommendations please: good tuner with remote, posted on June 17, 2004 at 17:00:48
AbeCollins
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My Marantz ST6000 isn't bad either for a < $300 tuner. I was quite surprised.

 

I can't tell you how many tuners I've owned, posted on June 19, 2004 at 12:12:19
hifinutt
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I really dig FM, and have owned a lot of tuners over the years. I have come to the same place as you, that being: a remote is mandatory. That leaves out the various affordable Magnum Dynalabs, except for their Parasound Halo clone, which I found to have had great detail but lacked a certain warmth. I presently use a vintage Rotel with a full remote function the RT990BX which sounds almost as good as the very expensive Rotel RHT-10. The various Rega tuners are good, especially the Rega Radio 2000. The newer Rega Radio-3 sounded good but has a nasty "Bug" wherein when you use the station pre-sets the sound level deminishes and you have to crank up your amp. The Cambridge to my ears was just so,so, YMMV. I did come accross a great buy in a modern remote tuner, having both detail & warmth, the Cayin tuner which retails for about $349.00 sold by www.thetunerguy.com
The owner, Franz is a good guy and is honest. Once in a while you can save a few $$$ when he sells a demo.
Good luck and let us know what you end up with.


You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead. (Don't ask)

 

Try this, posted on July 12, 2004 at 13:34:17
Bahr
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I have a CREEK T43 which I find quite remarkable,,,,,,'
It's all digital w/ remote........ throws a dandy soudstage
and recption is quite good .......

Bahr

 

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