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Tung Sol 6L6G

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Posted on April 21, 2017 at 12:22:50
sbjlamitie
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Anyone have any experience with these tubes.

 

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RE: Tung Sol 6L6G , posted on April 21, 2017 at 13:48:18
Jim McShane
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If you do an Asylum search on Tung-Sol 6L6G you'll find a lot of info. The reaction was quite positive, especially by inmates Mike Samra and danlaudionut who both know their stuff.

I like them a lot and we use them in the H-K Citation V amps.

 

RE: The other "G" types are excellent too!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 14:54:12
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I like them a lot along with GE, Sylvania, and RCA, in my single ended amps. But, truthfully, the metal bodied 6l6 is an excellent sounding tube and can be bought for way less. Whatever you choose be sure to check the plate voltage of your amp as the voltage limits of the 6l6 and 6l6g tubes are not as high as GB and GC types.

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G , posted on April 21, 2017 at 15:04:52
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Excuse me if this has already been answered but how do they differ in sound from the Tungsol 6l6GC reissue?

 

RE: The other "G" types are excellent too!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 15:30:01
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They are 19 watt dissipation too which is much less than the 6L6GCs.

And the metal tube shell is connected to pin 1. So if the socket its plugged into uses pin 1 as a tie point - whatever voltage is on pin one will be on the metal shell of the tube! That could be deadly, so be VERY careful with the metal tubes!!

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G , posted on April 21, 2017 at 17:48:15
Are we talking about the modern iteration of the 6L6G (made in Russia)? Or the vintage (made in USA) 6L6G?

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G , posted on April 22, 2017 at 01:27:08
Michael Samra
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Yes
I have experience with the vintage 6L6G TS tubes and the new 6L6G TungSol.
They both are fabulous but the new one can make more power and handle the voltages of a 6L6GC tube.Let me tell you how phenomenal the new 6L6G TS tube is. It's the only tube I know of in recent years that has almost doubled in price from its introduction. They are that good.This tube can maintain the sonics of the original 6L6g and,do it producing more power. The whole sonic spectrum is just so balanced in an Mc240 or a Citation 5 and even a Heathkit W5m.The midrange just sparkles and percussions are tight and controlled and there no irritation whatsoever from this tube. New Sensor really did their homework on so many of these reissues and then some.
If you want them for an audio amp,get them from Jim McShane because they will be chosen and matched for hifi applications and not guitar.Bottom line,you will adore these tubes if you liked the original. The added power seems to really bring depth to the music with these tubes.
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RE: The other "G" types are excellent too!, posted on April 22, 2017 at 02:37:26
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Thanks for the reminder. I don't use pin 1 and i forgot about that the need to be aware of that. cheers.

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G , posted on April 22, 2017 at 03:13:42
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What amp are you going to use them?

 

Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 22, 2017 at 04:18:36
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Michael,

Of course, Jim is my go to Tube Guy!

How would you describe the sonics of the TS 6L6G reissue versus the Genelec KT66 reissue? I have a Dennis Had Inspire Fire Bottle PSE (parallel single ended) amp that uses a 6SL7/6SN7 input tube and a 5R4 rectifier.

Jim, feel free to chime in as well.

TIA,

Tim

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 22, 2017 at 05:25:11
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RE: Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 22, 2017 at 05:58:21
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Thank ya brother!

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 22, 2017 at 06:03:11
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Good stuff!

I'm not really a fan of the KT77 either, nor the KT88. Both are fine sounding tubes but a little bland for me. I prefer dynamics, detailed and extended highs and good bass. I'll sacrifice a little midrange magic if it means more dynamics and decay.

I'm a fan of the 6L6 tubes as well as the KT66. The 6L6's I have (only a pair unfortunately) are 1960's RCA 6L6GB and some 6L6GT Groove Tubes.

Sounds like the TS's might be too lush for me?

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G , posted on April 22, 2017 at 09:34:27
sbjlamitie
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I am planning on using these in a Decware TORII Jr.
Thank you for the responses.
I just sent an e-mail to Jim McShane.

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 22, 2017 at 10:16:00
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I have both and use them in a triode strapped Inspire. Both are very good tubes. Your amp can mix tubes so consider a pair of each and also try the 6L6's you have with each. There may be magic in the mix. ;-)

The Tube Store is having a 20% off sale and their preferred series 6L6 is a good tube.

The Shuguang Treasure KT66z works well in these amps too.

The input tube has a large bearing in these amps. Perhaps more than the power tube.

 

RE: The other "G" types are excellent too!, posted on April 22, 2017 at 11:36:31
sbjlamitie
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If you are on here Jim I just sent you an e-mail.

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 22, 2017 at 11:49:17
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Sounds like the TS's might be too lush for me?

With your Harbeth speakers *I* think you'd prefer the GL KT66 over the TS.

Enjoy the amp!

 

Forgot to update my system...., posted on April 22, 2017 at 13:07:44
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Harbeths are gone and I now have Omega Super Alnico High Output monitors.

 

6SL7 or 6SN7 sonic thoughts?, posted on April 22, 2017 at 13:46:19
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I'd like any comments or observations on the best sounding 6SL7's and 6SN7's.

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 22, 2017 at 14:43:07
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Tim'
I like both of these tubes very much.I would hate to pick one over the other because of that very reason.If I was stuck to pick one,I would probably go with the 6L6G for the simple reason that my favorite tubes are the RCA 6L6GC black plates with the Russian 6P3S-E running close behind.That's a personal preference with me but it doesn't mean I'm right by any means.The 6L6G does come very close to the aforementioned tubes and has a beautiful power curve.I would buy some 6L6G tubes and switch back and forth and that's what I have done.Both tubes are fantastic but that's why we roll tubes.
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RE: 6SL7 or 6SN7 sonic thoughts? Yes Many!, posted on April 22, 2017 at 18:38:05
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That is the subject of an entire thread. I think it has been discussed at length and detail.
New or old stock?
If new I have only second hand knowledge but I think the Shuguang Treasure is well liked.
Old stock several of the Sylvania GTs but most would agree its the 'W' tall bottle metal base. Tung Sol round plates are cherished by many as the best. Then a myriad of choices NU, RCA, Raytheon etc. There are Brimar tubes made for the American market.
Imports like the famous Mullard ECC32, and the ECC33 as well as the British Brimar CV1988s,- the ECC34 and ECC35 may work for you.
That's it in a nutshell.



 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G vs. Genelec KT66, posted on April 23, 2017 at 02:43:24
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RE: Forgot to update my system...., posted on April 23, 2017 at 09:45:19
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The GL will still likely be better to your ears based on your speakers and what you listen too. The GL's are more extended and a little more dynamic than the TS.

Dennis designed the PSE amp to allow mixing power tubes so you sonic nirvana may be two pairs of different tubes. Endless experimenting w/o breaking the bank.

 

RE: 6SL7 or 6SN7 sonic thoughts? Yes Many!, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:09:42
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Howdy Mechans,

I've had all the revered 6SN7's but at current prices, like $400+ for a pair of TS RP's, the Shuguang CV 181's are not that expensive. Due to a lot of internet noise and the initial insane pricing I passed. Last year I bought a pair of the Psvane UK CV-181's and liked them. Then came the CV 181-Z, then CV 181-T, CV 181-T II and Shuguang WE 6SN7. All of these are very good tubes. The issue I see is that there is not much information about them. Like how they were voiced etc. I have no idea why they decided to call them CV-181's or WE 6SN7. WE never made a 6SN7. Since I accumulated these I have not used an old production 6SN7. YMMV etc.

 

RE: 6SL7 or 6SN7 sonic thoughts?, posted on April 23, 2017 at 10:34:35
SETdude
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BB, what 6SN7's & 6SL7's do you presently have?

 

RE: 6SL7 or 6SN7 sonic thoughts? Yes Many!, posted on April 23, 2017 at 13:25:02
Mechans
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I have way too much invested in the old tubes to start experimenting with the pricier new products.
I bought most of them a years ago before prices got too crazy. When my many multiple lifetime supply of these are used up, I might start playing around with the new Chinese products. They aren't cheap by any means. Are they that much better than my collection of Ws, Bad Boys, TSs, NUs, RCAs, etc....?
I am afraid to sell them, prices I afraid they won't realize anywhere near to what I paid for them. I have seen listings for good but common tubes like the Raytheons not selling at $15- !

 

RE: Tung Sol 6L6G , posted on April 25, 2017 at 08:47:12
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You should have received my reply yesterday AM. You have mail I suspect!

 

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