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BC1022 solid state amp to drive Klipsch Cornwall 4 loudspeakers

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Posted on November 17, 2022 at 14:52:05
bob24
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 I'm considering upgrading my Audio Physic Virgos because my house has an open floor plan and the Virgos just can't fill up the space.
I think they would be better suited to a smaller area, and/ or a dedicated room.
I thought about the Klipsch Cornwall 4 speakers.
Minimum continuous power output requirement is 100W for these speakers which is what the Blue Circle power output is. Perhaps 100 W is not quite enough to optimize the performance of the speakers?

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You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 17, 2022 at 15:16:45
Ozzy
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 But it's not your fault, Klipsch could have worded that better. 100 watts isn't the minimum required power. These speakers will rock your world with 10 watts. Your Blue Circle amp is actually overkill in this situation.







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RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 17, 2022 at 15:54:15
bob24
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 So the Klipsch speakers are highly efficient then

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 17, 2022 at 17:46:02
Mick Wolfe
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 102db @2.83V/1m. I'd say that's quite efficient.

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 18, 2022 at 09:28:53
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 The Cornwalls are quite sensitive. Even 5 clean watts will drive them fine for most applications.

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 18, 2022 at 09:49:27
6bq5
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 especially as compared to the 88.5 of the Virgos
Happy Listening

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 19, 2022 at 12:37:22
Jack G
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 yes, but they'll need to be near a wall or better yet, in corners, if you want anything that resembles bass out of them.
Jack

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 19, 2022 at 18:08:49
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I get great bass and mine are about two feet from the back wall.

 

RE: BC1022 solid state amp to drive Klipsch Cornwall 4 loudspeakers, posted on November 19, 2022 at 21:45:46
KanedaK
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 Heyyy I remember you! I was the one suggesting the Cornwall IV to you on a Facebook group :-) my name is François ;-)

Your amp will be more than fine! However, and it seems obvious but still: try to give them a listen before you buy - they are much better than any previous generation Klipsch, much more refined, less "horny" and are IMO great all-rounders, I spent a whole afternoon with them and a nice tube amp and I was in love - and I've been recommending them to a lot of people ever since, as to me they seem to be quite the bargain, compared to the competition - but they WILL sound very different, of course, from your Audio Physics, as you can imagine.

My system is mostly DIY and I have big, fully horn-loaded speakers that are actively tri-amped; but if I was in the market for a turnkey system the Cornwall IV would be on top of my list.

I don't remember you mentioning what your favorite music styles were?

 

How deep do they go there? (nt), posted on November 20, 2022 at 08:16:10
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RE: How deep do they go there? (nt), posted on November 20, 2022 at 08:49:05
ecl876
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 I can't tell you in Hz but plenty deep enough for me in my room. Klipsch says 34Hz, of course, room dependent. I previously owned a GoldenEar Triton 1 which went down below 20Hz and I find the bass on the Cornwall more satisfying.

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 20, 2022 at 10:02:28
Mick Wolfe
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 Nice clean set-up. The CW 4's have always been on my radar. What amplification are you using?

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 20, 2022 at 11:39:53
ecl876
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 Rogue Cronus ll, 100 watts. Not needed though. Very efficient. You don't need to turn the volume knob very high.

 

RE: How deep do they go there? (nt), posted on November 20, 2022 at 11:51:16
Jack G
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 Klipsh does recommend placing them near a wall or corner for best bass.
I auditioned the Triton 1s years ago. I didn't like the bass either. Boomy and flabby.
Jack

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 20, 2022 at 18:13:50
Mick Wolfe
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 Well, that should allow plenty of headroom. But as a bonus, you can experiment with dozens( if not hundreds ) of lower powered P-P and SET tube amps if curiosity sets in. You're in a good place.



 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 21, 2022 at 11:26:19
ecl876
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 At my age, I think I'm done experimenting. I love the sound of these speakers. Interestingly, with all the other speakers I've owned, there were always days when the speakers sounded underwhelming. Who knows why? My ears, the power? So far with these, I haven't had a bad day. Probably coincidence.

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 21, 2022 at 17:10:33
bob24
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 Good insight

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 21, 2022 at 17:24:17
Mick Wolfe
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 Similar situation here and maybe too old to care as well. About 5 or 6 years ago I moved away from the typical "audiophile approved" speaker and started to sample designs that had their roots in pro audio. My first diversion was a pair of Spatial M2 Turbo's. Open baffle design with drivers from Eminence. The Spatial's are no longer around, but they were the first speaker I'd owned in years that could play all genres at decent volume levels with a nice sense of ease..... were well voiced to boot. I've went this direction ever since for the most part. Have two pairs of Klipsch's myself.

 

Tower Speaker, posted on November 22, 2022 at 13:46:15
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 I took a peak to Music Direct and they call the CW 4 a "tower speaker."

Very cool speakers, but not tower shaped at all.
Gsquared

 

RE: Tower Speaker, posted on November 22, 2022 at 19:10:02
Mick Wolfe
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 About the only Klipsch Heritage series speaker that "might" be considered a "tower" would be the Forte 4. Now the Klipsch RP Series offers quite a few options that most would consider a more typical tower design.

 

RE: BC1022 solid state amp to drive Klipsch Cornwall 4 loudspeakers, posted on November 23, 2022 at 17:21:43
Donivey
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 I'm currently driving my CW4's with a 50wpc Moonriver 404R, and am very happy with the resulting sound. In a large open concept type room, they work beautifully, and can be very dynamic at low volume levels. Looking forward to a 2.6wpc Decware sometime this Winter!

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 27, 2022 at 07:57:21
voolston
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 What caused you to move on from the open baffle Spatials? I've only heard one pair of non-box speakers, but they did have subs so all in they sounded more like traditional speakers more so than I would've thought. What are you listening to now? I looked at your system details but seen multiple speakers, so don't know what your current ones are.

voolston - audiophile by day, music lover by night!

 

RE: You misunderstood...-...-., posted on November 27, 2022 at 09:36:03
Mick Wolfe
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 I only moved away from that early Spatial design because in the end, it wasn't tube friendly. 4 ohm nominal with a rather unfriendly impedance curve to boot. Ran it for about a year with a Classdaaudio 254. Much better match, but in the end, I missed tube amplification. I do like the newer Spatial designs and open baffle in general, but if money were no object, I'd opt for the Pure Audio Project Duet 15. On the cheap, DIYing a Lii F-15 OB seems to be the more realistic option. Unfortunately, I'm running out of space to store all this stuff.
I rotate equipment periodically to keep things fresh. That's why you see a variety of speakers/amps listed. Current speaker/amp combos are Zu Omen DW's/Erhard Elvis (big room) and GR NX Studio Monitors/LM 218ia.(small room)

 

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