Convert active digital speakers to analog

RE: Convert active digital speakers to analog, posted on April 15, 2017 at 05:32:48
The Dill Audiophile Posts: 2197 Location: Portland, Oregon Joined: July 1, 2004 Contributor Since: February 3, 2016	They are going to be reluctant to change teams ... ;-)

why do you guys treat people this way?, posted on April 15, 2017 at 14:35:10

cloudwalker
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Maybe I am totally wrong, and even though this question is vague, we all have to start somewhere. I will try to answer this question as well as I can.. Speakers cannot be "digital"...the input signal needs to be converted from a digital source and then amplified. Disc players (CD's, DVD's and Blu Ray players), TV's, receivers or amplifiers and computers can convert the signal to analog form and receivers, amps and TVs can amplify the signal. It is usually best if receivers or amplifiers do this because they often have the best DAC's (Digital to analog convertor) and only they can send a separate signal to each speaker. You are probably confused because some speakers (a lot of subwoofers) have their own amplifier...especially true with computer speakers. Confusing the issue more is some speakers (I am thinking of Speakerlab DAS series) uses the word "digital" in their name.

RE: why do you guys treat people this way?, posted on April 15, 2017 at 15:31:33

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or he has an active set of speakers with a DAC in the speaker being used to act as the crossover. If that's true then he can in theory convert the DAC crossover to an analog active crossover. But I wouldn't do it. Designing the analog crossover so it had the same transfer functions as the digital one would take a very, very good designer. and be both difficult and costly. Perhaps he can tell us what speakers he has and then maybe someone can give him some meaningful advice.

so, you are saying.., posted on April 15, 2017 at 16:11:45
cloudwalker Audiophile Posts: 634 Location: central wa Joined: September 27, 2012	some speakers have a built in DAC? I have never seen those. Can you please tell me the make & model #? Their DAC is probably not a good one..

Actually, posted on April 15, 2017 at 16:29:49

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Been many for a long time,never assume. Good stuff amongst this old list but not for me.

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RE: why do you guys treat people this way?, posted on April 15, 2017 at 16:39:46
PAR	Why do you think it is a question? Nothing about it to indicate it as such. It is an imperative. I refuse to do it.

RE: so, you are saying.., posted on April 15, 2017 at 17:23:30

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Several speakers have built-in DACs. The wireless version of the KEF LS50 has 2 DACs/ch (four DACs - 192kHz/24bit), DSP active crossovers and dual-mono bi-amplification.

well, again I learned something, posted on April 15, 2017 at 19:27:12
cloudwalker Audiophile Posts: 634 Location: central wa Joined: September 27, 2012	I just don't understand the reason behind it

RE: well, again I learned something, posted on April 15, 2017 at 20:29:42
hahax@verizon.net Audiophile Posts: 4306 Location: New Jersey Joined: March 22, 2006	The DAC can be used as the active crossover before the amps insteas of an active analog crossover.

Question??? I thought it was a typo, posted on April 16, 2017 at 07:57:18
airtime Audiophile Posts: 11287 Location: Arizona Joined: February 4, 2003	Usually when "I" see things like this I assume they are either trolls or the opening to a sales pitch. A question is if we had knees facing the other way what would a chair look like? Now that's a question.

Perhaps, posted on April 16, 2017 at 14:47:58
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37584 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	He might begin by reading the posting rules as he associates himself with an audio retailer. English is likely a second language, but I don't see a question or even an observation either.

Reducing box count for millennials, posted on April 16, 2017 at 15:03:28
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37584 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	Bruno Putzeys, known for his switching amps makes a tiny speaker called the Kii with the lofty claim that it "effortlessly outperforms all others, regardless of price" Just add computer source for your tiny Euro flat. :)

RE: Reducing box count for millennials, posted on April 16, 2017 at 20:51:40
airtime Audiophile Posts: 11287 Location: Arizona Joined: February 4, 2003	I believe in the UK powered speakers were pretty big there because of the "small flats".

this has got to be the ultimate troll........., posted on April 17, 2017 at 03:45:26
vinnie2 Audiophile Posts: 4481 Location: North Carolina Joined: September 28, 2013	He neither asked a question nor made a statement, but he managed to generate all the responses below. I also note a lack of follow up to any of them. He must be laughing his a#$ off by now.

RE: why do you guys treat people this way?, posted on April 17, 2017 at 06:27:58

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ip address is Hanoi.

Might explain the language issue.

Also interesting pictures on the Facebook page associated with the audio store name:

https://www.facebook.com/lacvietaudio/

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Almost all scammers...., posted on April 17, 2017 at 08:36:24
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RE: why do you guys treat people this way?, posted on April 17, 2017 at 10:39:50

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Back in 1999 I had the idea to combine DSP and horns. I was particularly excited about the prospect of using folded corner horns for bass and placing mid and high horns out in the room where they would image better with the obvious distance/time problem corrected away with DSP. It was 2004 before everything came together to get the system up and playing. The results have been everything I hoped for.

If the OP was giving an order my response is not just no but hell no.

I dream of an America where a chicken can cross the road without having it's motives questioned.

There is no such thing as a digital amplifier, posted on April 17, 2017 at 11:05:22
Ralph Manufacturer Posts: 4769 Location: Minnesota Joined: April 24, 2002	Although there is class D, which is an analog process. Just to be clear, just sayin'! etc.

RE: There is no such thing as a digital amplifier, posted on April 17, 2017 at 20:39:09
hahax@verizon.net Audiophile Posts: 4306 Location: New Jersey Joined: March 22, 2006	Agreed but the speakers could be digital in the sense that they could have an ADC input so the crossover could be done digitally and then go to a DAC to drive multiple amps in an active speaker system.

RE: Question??? I thought it was a typo, posted on April 18, 2017 at 12:20:30

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irtime wrote, "A question is if we had knees facing the other way what would a chair look like? Now that's a question."

I grant you that is a damned fine question. The only animal I could think of with knees which allow the lower leg to swing forward instead of back is the ostrich. After studying the accompanying pic of human and ostrich skeletons I concluded Mr. ostrich could sit in an ordinary people chair. Obviously the direction of the knee hinge is not nearly so important as the overall skeletal design as regards to the correct chair (if any) for a particular animal.
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Convert active digital speakers to analog

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