what's wrong with tubes?

oh, now see, that sounds nice., posted on November 10, 2002 at 18:26:48
some young guy Manufacturer Posts: 3350 Location: no. california Joined: June 2, 2002	i am totally relaxed. i've been listening to my tubes all day, they're nice and warm and now the thought of dinner just finishes off a perfect day. thanks.

They wear out (nt), posted on November 10, 2002 at 18:36:05
Rod M Web Geek Posts: 16242 Location: So. California Joined: March 1, 1999 Contributor Since: March 1, 1999	.

i knew it was something (nt), posted on November 10, 2002 at 18:56:56
some young guy Manufacturer Posts: 3350 Location: no. california Joined: June 2, 2002	nt

You mean other than...., posted on November 11, 2002 at 06:46:37
Jitter_by_Coffee	they generate lots of heat, are inefficient, have lower damping factors(power amps), have higher thermal noise, and decline in performance with age?

And look better under spectral analysis (nt), posted on November 11, 2002 at 07:23:51
rcrump Manufacturer Posts: 4716 Location: Texas Joined: April 20, 2000 Contributor Since: August 29, 2000	:-)

They have a higher rate of return over the past two years....., posted on November 11, 2002 at 10:32:07

Chris Garrett
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actually better than the three major markets combined. LOL!

Chris

If not, they do in an unlit room(nt), posted on November 11, 2002 at 11:43:31
Jitter_by_Coffee	.

Beauty is merely a lightswitch away! (nt), posted on November 11, 2002 at 12:48:09
rcrump Manufacturer Posts: 4716 Location: Texas Joined: April 20, 2000 Contributor Since: August 29, 2000	:-)

no dought, it's the only investment i've made that's made money this year..., posted on November 11, 2002 at 14:09:58
some young guy Manufacturer Posts: 3350 Location: no. california Joined: June 2, 2002	plus the last couple of auctions where i've listed singles, i've wound-up selling two or three. if i would have known then what i know now...

click..., posted on November 11, 2002 at 14:12:00

some young guy
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nt needed

Firebottles!, posted on November 11, 2002 at 16:12:36
rcrump Manufacturer Posts: 4716 Location: Texas Joined: April 20, 2000 Contributor Since: August 29, 2000	I just loved working with tubes as they always sounded good....It is a lot more fun to make solid state sound worth a darned....

Re: They wear out (nt), posted on November 11, 2002 at 17:47:46

tecnofossil
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Speaking as a tech, so does SS, although not as reliably. Tubes you can generally predict. SS life is difficult to nail down. Could las weeks or decades. Throw into the mix ESD damage....a device can work for a while, getting well past burn in. Then die in the field for no apparent reason.

-Tom

Nothing, why? (nt, posted on November 12, 2002 at 00:38:33
garth

If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass (nt), posted on November 13, 2002 at 15:53:07
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37599 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	nt

No, but then he'd skin his nose.(nt), posted on November 13, 2002 at 20:05:32
Jitter_by_Coffee	.

Re: what's wrong with tubes?, posted on November 15, 2002 at 04:14:05

Kiefer74
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No need to prove a thing much less two or whatever. I like my tube pre and amps a lot...
My only complaint wouldn't be the amount of heat they generate, but the effect it has on me ;-)
hard to enjoy music regardless of the quality when your dripping with sweat. Fortunately the hot period doesn't last to long here in NYC.
I love some SS gear along w/ some tube gear. When it came time for my money to be put down it went towards tubed gear...no regrets here.

Kiefer
sleep deprived yet somehow still maintaining

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what's wrong with tubes?

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