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Posted on April 21, 2017 at 10:28:40
tnewell
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 My 4 year old windows 10 laptop server died. So I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows 10 Home Edition. Now I can't seem to get to the new computer to recognize my Auralic Vega DAC.

I was able to download the driver and install it but it is not showing up as a Sound Device.

I have tried everything. Even swapping USB cables but nothing seems to work.

The Vega worked flawlessly with the old laptop.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Tom

 

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RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 11:04:25
jaydacus
 Does ANYTHING show up in device manager?

If not your cord and or DAC might be bad.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 11:43:55
tnewell
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 The Auralic USB 2.0 driver shows up in Device Manager but the status says "Windows cannot verify the digital Signature for the drivers required for this device"

Not sure what that means.

Tom

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 12:17:25
jaydacus
 Very common issue in newer versions of Windows. One of the many reasons everyone is moving to the Raspberry Pi.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 14:04:51
Fitzcaraldo215
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 Or else, they just continue to use good old Windows 7, like me.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 14:37:22
AbeCollins
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 Or they get fed up with it all and go to a Mac, like me - (7 years ago).



 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 14:53:24
Fitzcaraldo215
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 Yes, I can see that point of view. On the other hand, some software I prefer - JRiver,Dirac, etc. - is scaled back, buggy or otherwise several releases inferior in the Mac version.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 16:16:08
jaydacus
 Not that anyone who has been to a movie in the last 10 years would know it, but almost no one is using OSX. There are over twice as many (7.44%) PC users still using Windows XP and there are people using OSX 3.22%. Just saying.

I still prefer Windows 7, but the 64 bit version is abysmal for audio. Thankfully I have gotten out of the Windows PC audio scene.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 16:56:33
Jeff Starr
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 Hi, I just looked at your system, very nice. I see you are using JRiver, have you changed the settings in there?
If not, that could be it. You have to select the DAC and choose how you want to output, Wasapi is recommended by JRiver. There may also be other settings to change, or setup.
Even if you are using Tidal's desktop app, you need to go into settings, pick the DAC, and then click on settings to right of choosen DAC.

If that is the problem, many of us can look at our settings, to let you know what we are using.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 17:23:41
Dynobot
 Or just say screw them all and use Linux like me...:-)


 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 17:26:36
jaydacus
 Stupid question. Why on Earth are you connecting a $2800 DAC to USB in the first place?

That would be like buying a Ferrari and only driving it on gravel roads.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 17:51:28
Mercman
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 A common problem when Windows 10 was updated to the Aniversary update.

Turn the driver Signature off and install goes fine. I've had to do this several times.

I use advanced boot / troubleshoot.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 19:13:46
jaydacus
 Anniversary Edition is widely known to sound like carp.

Now you are driving your Ferrari on the beach.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 21, 2017 at 22:09:27
AbeCollins
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Just because something is more 'popular' doesn't make it 'better'. Just saying. ;-)



 

W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 21, 2017 at 22:47:11
fmak
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 I have just lost Ethernet after. Gone back to W8.1 x64 which provides superior 4k video and can be controlled.

Don't know why punters spend money on new HW and SW, then find retrograde 'downgrades'.

New W10 updates add incomprehensible services that may be spyware?

 

try W8.1 x64 stripped down for audio, posted on April 21, 2017 at 22:50:48
fmak
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 It's good when latency is set really low. And stable too.

 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 21, 2017 at 22:55:32
jaydacus
 I was done with W10 after M$ forced me to Anniversary Edition even with updates turned off and disabled. Went back to W7 where I will stay until something else comes along. Done with audio on the PC long ago anyway.

 

RE: Help!!!, posted on April 22, 2017 at 05:52:32
fredtr
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 Mercman gave you good advice. Microsoft charges developers for each OS driver signature. Either contact the DAC manufacturer for signed 10 driver or follow Mercman's link for instructions to turn off signature check.

 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 22, 2017 at 06:11:52
jaydacus
 I was done with W10 after M$ forced me to Anniversary Edition even with updates turned off and disabled. Went back to W7 where I will stay until something else comes along. Done with audio on the PC long ago anyway.

 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 22, 2017 at 06:17:06
Cut-Throat
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 You can say that again!



 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 22, 2017 at 06:17:31
Cut-Throat
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 You can say that again !



 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 22, 2017 at 07:42:48
merlinus
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 Instead of complaining, switch to Linux, as I did ten years ago! No vermin, trojans, viruses, etc. No forced updates nor advertising shoved down your throat.

Incredible apps ranging from word processing to photo editing and audio players. And for a total software cost of zero, and no hardware upgrades needed either!

 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 22, 2017 at 08:11:37
jaydacus
 No, no, no, no. Not going there. No. I have wasted hundreds of hours of my life trying to get things to work properly /at all in countless versions on desktop Linux.
On the rare occasions that things were working mostly like I wanted an update, bug, or whatever would just knock it all down a day or two later and I would spend hours getting back to almost as good as what I had before it broke. Rinse and repeat.

No. Evil Not going there anymore. Whoever said that Linux was only free if your time has no value was a genius.

 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 22, 2017 at 08:43:35
merlinus
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 Your experience is 180 degrees from mine. There is, as with everything, a small learning curve, but the newer versions of various distros are a breeze to install and keep running smoothly.

You pays yer money and takes yer choice, as with everything else!

 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 22, 2017 at 11:58:29
fredtr
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 I think both perspectives are valid. I put linux on my wife's laptop years ago after spending too much time with viruses, trojans etc. And I use linux for a music server. It did take some time to load flash etc., and the linux learning curve is not trivial. But once things that I/we need are loaded it is rare that I need to do anything to either laptop or music server. So for those that don't mind learning linux or already have the familiarity it is a very good alternative. Regarding Microsoft OS's, support tends to be more intuitive, and it is easier to find assistance when needed than linux.

 

I don't know what you are into, posted on April 22, 2017 at 13:07:17
fmak
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 but I have quite a few unsigned drivers, audio and otherwise, on 64 bit windows and have never had a problem. I do tend to use open sourced programs without all these inbuilt 'spying' functions, and by and large, they don't have certified drivers.

Is it your 'optimising' audio suites? Or do you not disable useless security features from the word go?

 

RE: I don't know what you are into, posted on April 22, 2017 at 14:13:46
Mercman
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 The issue is with the Anniversary Update for Windows 10. It scrutinizes Signed drivers unless this feature is temporally turned off.

I have a dual boot system that runs Windows 10 Pro 64 and a Windows 10 Pro 64 with AudiophileOptimizer. This driver install issue is seen with both versions.

AudiophileOptimizer will prevent updates and other security features unless one performs a Reset in the program.

 

Just pony up $100 and buy Windows 7..., posted on April 22, 2017 at 18:25:27
Rod M
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 It works, why fix it?


-Rod

 

It all depends...., posted on April 22, 2017 at 18:32:30
Rod M
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 I'm in a Unix world most of the time, currently Munix, Apple's version of BSD. It's great for servers, set them up and forget them, but getting them set up can be baffling for the novice.

The GUIs are getting slick on the Linux flavors, but I also need to run too many Windows programs for it to work for my desktop.

-Rod

 

RE: I don't know what you are into, posted on April 22, 2017 at 21:24:52
fmak
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 I have NO issues with the update

 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 23, 2017 at 05:53:48
AbeCollins
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 The learning curve is even smaller on Mac but the reliability of UNIX and many of it's features are all there under the hood for those who like to explore. Coming from a UNIX background, including IRIX, SunOS, Solaris, Mac OS X, it's not hard to see why I enjoy the Mac as much as I do.




 

RE: W10 Auto Updates stink, posted on April 23, 2017 at 08:18:38
Cut-Throat
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 Actually, I am not complaining. I Love Windows 10 .... No plans to switch.



 

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