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Posted on June 14, 2017 at 20:13:00
Ivan303
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Might be enjoying the above a bit too much.

Even though I am guessing I really shouldn't be.

But I like pretty much everything Schubert did, so there is that.


First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

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The finished unfinished! Talk about beating the hurdy gurdy man! nt, posted on June 14, 2017 at 20:43:44
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AFAIR, it doesn't take very much to complete the third movement, posted on June 14, 2017 at 20:46:30
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 It's almost fully written our in piano score, but with only a few measures of orchestration. I think that all it really requires is a little connecting passage and the orchestration.

It's the fourth movement that's the problem. I used to have the Marriner set of Schubert Symphonies, and they used a part of the Rosamunde incidental music as the fourth movement. I thought it worked out OK, but I'm certainly interested to know what Venzago has done in his own completion.

 

Check out "Rendering", by, posted on June 14, 2017 at 20:59:14
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 Wait for it...







Berio

 

Which one?, posted on June 14, 2017 at 21:14:50
Ivan303
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 Botstein, Edward Gardner, or Chailly?

Don't want to listen to in three times.




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: Which one?, posted on June 14, 2017 at 21:24:15
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I have this one, but I'd go for the Bergen on in Hi-Res.

 

Listen and Obey, posted on June 14, 2017 at 22:37:45
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 It's the musical equivalent of the movie The Ring.
When that girl climbs out of your speakers, well, I can tell you.
You'll welcome the End.
Of the piece, I mean...

 

Or these lovely renderings:, posted on June 15, 2017 at 06:23:05
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Fascination, imho.

 

That's Nothing! I happen to have the only known copy of the, posted on June 15, 2017 at 09:51:37
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 Unbegun Symphony.
Actually, it's a Forgery.
I wrote it...

 

Mantovani? THE Mantovani? (BTW, I don't know either of those albums) [nt] ;-), posted on June 15, 2017 at 09:51:47
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I think Mantovani recorded Fascination. That tricky Kal... nt, posted on June 15, 2017 at 10:37:34
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No way., posted on June 15, 2017 at 12:21:29
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 This Mantovani.


 

Ah! Guilt by association! [nt] ;-), posted on June 15, 2017 at 15:43:56
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But me - I've always wanted to drift through life. . . , posted on June 15, 2017 at 16:44:47
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 . . . and when that nurse comes in to my room saying, "It's time for your medication", it's Mantovani's inimitable "La Mer" (not Debussy's, and certainly not Glazunov's!) that I want to have playing in the background. . .








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I'll take Piaf. (NT), posted on June 15, 2017 at 17:39:33
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Piaf? I thought she was restricted to TV commercials these days!, posted on June 15, 2017 at 18:01:15
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Did I hear a saxophone..., posted on June 15, 2017 at 19:08:23
Ivan303
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 at the beginning of the third movement?

Did I???


First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Berio had 2 Sax parts in the Sinfonia, so it's possible, even likely! , posted on June 15, 2017 at 19:35:46
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 I'll check it out and see what I hear, and get back to you.

 

I just assumed when I heard the sax.., posted on June 15, 2017 at 20:52:31
Ivan303
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 that you had at some point played it.

I'm streaming the Chandos/Gardner/Bergen right now.

Nothing bad has happened yet.




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

No, just the Sinfonia, in the Oakland Symphony with the Swingle Singers, posted on June 15, 2017 at 21:04:29
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 the Original Swingles, really fantastic group.

 

RE: Piaf? I thought she was restricted to TV commercials these days!, posted on June 16, 2017 at 07:19:01
oldmkvi
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 There's a Chocolate ad that has Piaf or an imitator.
There was a woman locally that did a Piaf Show, there was even a Ballet that used her singing with the Ballet Orch.
Just can't tolerate that nasal Piaf sound....

 

RE: Piaf?, posted on June 16, 2017 at 08:30:35
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 I agree about the nasal sound but she, along with a few others, are so bound up with the essential character of a particular song or two that anyone else is just an unsuccessful imitator. La Mer and Je ne regrette rien are examples.

Bob Dylan, anyone?

 

RE: Piaf?, posted on June 16, 2017 at 09:42:51
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 I'm sure you're right, but at least I can understand ( some of ) Dylan...
Maybe if I understood French I would appreciate Piaf more.

 

Undoubtedly but, posted on June 16, 2017 at 13:14:26
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 understanding Piaf's French is another story.

 

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