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OH man: Campoli's Tchaikovsky VC available at HDTT. I like the Heifetz but....

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Posted on April 12, 2017 at 13:25:42
jdaniel@jps.net



Campoli's early Decca is just a stunning recording: huge soundstage, holographic, and some passages of uncanny realism. I don't like Campoli in everything but his Tchaikovsky is as sweet, lyrical (and feisty) as can be. One of my treasured Lps.

The Graffman/Cleveland PC 1 is included. Ironically one of my last lp finds. It was reviewed very positively. IIRC it's relatively well -recorded and very good performance .

 

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Streaming in now from QOBUZ, posted on April 12, 2017 at 16:08:09
Ivan303
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This is what the album artwork looks like on QOBUZ.

Yes, another great DECCA recording, from the era of great DECCA recordings!

I might spring for it as well (the cheapo DVD-A version, of course). :-)





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And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Espana very good but humbly think the Campoli better recorded. In any case a very satisfying VC. Nt, posted on April 12, 2017 at 16:23:47
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Interesting that Decca now tacks the VC as tracks 13-16..., posted on April 12, 2017 at 16:47:52
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 onto the 'Espana' when they send it off to QOBUZ, but there it was!


13. Violin Concerto In D, Op.35, TH. 59 : 1. Allegro moderato
Label : Decca / Compositeur : Piotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky
Alfredo Campoli, Associated Performer, Violin, Main Artist
- London Symphony Orchestra, Orchestra, Orchestra, Main Artist
- Ataulfo Argenta, Conductor, Conductor, Main Artist
- Piotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, Composer

All in proper QOBUZ French!




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And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Did you like it? nt, posted on April 12, 2017 at 18:48:07
jdaniel@jps.net
 .

 

Again,I might buy it from HDTT..., posted on April 12, 2017 at 19:12:03
Ivan303
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 But they don't say where they got it (15ips tape or whatever).

That said, the stream from QOBUZ is VERY good!

REALLY liked the first movement.

I can see why you like it!






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I like what I hear of the first movement in DXD., posted on April 12, 2017 at 21:28:45
Jim Treanor
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 You're right about Decca's effort with this. I just wish HDTT would have listed the download's provenance.

Oh, and you're costing me money, jd. :-)


Jim

 

RE: I like what I hear of the first movement in DXD., posted on April 12, 2017 at 21:33:34
jdaniel@jps.net
 Tell me about money. I just recently downloaded the Heifetz.

I'm glad sound quality impressed you, even without knowing the provenance.

 

RE: Interesting that Decca now tacks the VC as tracks 13-16..., posted on April 12, 2017 at 21:57:00
PAR
 Not only is the VC tacked onto the Qobuz version but also onto the download version made available by Decca to its partners e.g. Presto Classical.

This seems to be a result of the original album being too short for these digital days. In order to pad it out to 70 minutes or so Decca appear to have tacked on the Campoli apparently solely as it was a piece of the right length but without any artistic regard to the Spanish theme of the album. In the CD release they padded it with Debussy Images where at least Iberia did make sense in the context of the disc.

 

Its sound quality was evident from the opening passage., posted on April 12, 2017 at 22:27:55
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 I've now listened all the way through and remain impressed with both the performance and the sonics, and not least the openness of the venue acoustic of the now-departed Kingsway Hall captured by the Decca mikes.

Thanks for the heads-up.


Jim

 

Someone's good fortune to discover an EXELENT....., posted on April 13, 2017 at 06:43:14
Ivan303
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 performance of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto as a filler piece.

I quite enjoyed it and, if the folks here like the HDTT version I might be forced to spring for the 'poor man's' Hi Rez download from HDTT. That would be the no-jeweled-box 24/192 DVD-A for $9 plus media mail shipping. Last order I placed with them during a sale and I got four DVD-A for about $7.50 each with a total shipping/handling of about $5.

Now all I gotta do is figure out how to 'rip' DVD-As to my hard drive.






First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Double Oh man, they just released Ansermet's Ravel L'Enfant, posted on April 14, 2017 at 19:35:49
jdaniel@jps.net



"from a 15ips tape."

Really hard to choose between Maazel's and Ansermet's. Both magical, the DGG astonishingly well-recorded, though the recording palm still goes to Decca.

I don't think that either has been surpassed, so once again, I have to break my pledge to only support living artists.

Releasing it before April 18 was pretty evil though. : ) Uncle Sam gest very jealous.

 

RE: Double Oh man, they just released Ansermet's Ravel L'Enfant, posted on April 14, 2017 at 19:46:49
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 The Maazel recording on vinyl is one of the best I have. The performances are wonderful, and the sense of space his just stunning.

 

I'm so glad you agree. What happened to Maazel and DGG after? Don't know, but the vocalists really "become", posted on April 14, 2017 at 19:58:40
jdaniel@jps.net
 in that recordings. Fantastic singing, especially Berbie as Le feu.

Maazel's is a bit dark, Ansermet's more light. In any case I marvel over Ravel's imagination.

 

RE: I'm so glad you agree. What happened to Maazel and DGG after? Don't know, but the vocalists really "become", posted on April 14, 2017 at 22:11:12
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 I went ahead and bought the Ansermet DSD file, but my Marantz can't play it, even with Audirvana.
I don't know if they will let me trade it in for a .flac or DSD 64 version. If not, perhaps I can offer it to someone else here....

 

RE: OH man: Campoli's Tchaikovsky VC available at HDTT. I like the Heifetz but...., posted on April 18, 2017 at 16:52:42
Todd Krieger
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 Listened to the Campoli Tchaik VC performance..... I thought it was OK, but not great.......

The Graffman/Szell Tchaik PC1 is excellent, however.

 

RE: OH man: Campoli's Tchaikovsky VC available at HDTT. I like the Heifetz but...., posted on April 18, 2017 at 20:29:03
jdaniel@jps.net
 My favorite is still Heifetz but I just can't resist Campoli's golden strands of sweet melody, not that he can't be feisty too.

Who is your favorite in this material. I take it you're a big Cleveland fan? Szell's Don Quixote is unsurpassed IMHO.

 

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