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Yuja speaks: "if the music is beautiful and sensual, why not dress to fit?"

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Posted on April 10, 2017 at 10:12:01
Chris from Lafayette
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 Here's her recent interview in The Guardian. The comments at the end are interesting too - kind of similar to what we get here on AA, e.g., shameless hussy type comments, or something like, if I'm listening to the Hammerklavier, I don't want to be staring at some woman's naked thighs - LOL! So. . . uh. . . what's wrong with looking at something else? Does something compel you to stare and you can't resist it? ;-)

 

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I guess you're never going to let this go. nt, posted on April 10, 2017 at 11:11:44
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Let what go? Is there a problem in..., posted on April 10, 2017 at 11:52:02
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 posting a link to an interview with one of the top classical musicians in the world today? Heck Chris didn't even use the B word.

 

Coy. nt, posted on April 10, 2017 at 12:57:03
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Nah, the article is relevant. It's about a premiere artist and , posted on April 10, 2017 at 14:31:35
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 it touches on a subject that has been recently discussed here on this forum. I don't see anything wrong with Chris posting it. have you read it? Any thoughts on what Yuja said? Any thoughts on the remarks Chris pointed out?

 

RE: Why dress at all? NSFW, posted on April 10, 2017 at 14:48:06
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LOL! - OK, that's beyond even my threshold! ;-), posted on April 10, 2017 at 15:23:49
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 There's been some Google Groups discussion about Yuja's interview, and, similarly to one of the posters there, I have to ask myself: if I'm listening to the Hammerklavier, and I have the forced choice between looking at Yuja's naked thigh or Daniel Beerbelly's entire physique, which would I find more inspiring (in keeping with the music of course!)? Hmm. . . not too difficult a choice - at least for me! ;-)

 

They're just young and horney. nt, posted on April 10, 2017 at 15:44:11
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That's Charlotte Moorman, Chris -- a real performance artist, posted on April 10, 2017 at 15:58:32
rbolaw
 Her nudity was not a tiresome marketing ploy (as with some of your babes), but part of (some of) her conceptual art performances. And unlike Yoko Ono, who imo was a legitimate conceptual artist but not much of a musician and who had the bad judgment to make music albums, Charlotte Moorman actually was a musician, and a very good one who studied at Juilliard. I'm not a big fan, but she's ahead of some of your babes with their mediocre CDs of piano standards, for sure.

What are laughable are Yuja Wang's comments in the inane article you cited. She does seem to have a sense of humor, but her silly comments there were hardly worthy of being reported to the world.

 

Heard anything Angela Brownridge has done?, posted on April 10, 2017 at 16:22:54
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Hmm. . . I found Yuja's comments to be quite insightful myself [nt] ;-), posted on April 10, 2017 at 17:44:03
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Nope - is she good? [nt], posted on April 10, 2017 at 17:45:49
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BTW, who would you rather see perform the Hammerklavier: Yuja or Danny Boy? [nt], posted on April 10, 2017 at 18:00:11
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RE: BTW, who would you rather see perform the Hammerklavier: Yuja or Danny Boy? [nt], posted on April 10, 2017 at 18:21:39
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 Since I don't "get" the Hammerklavier, and probably, even after many tries, I would probably rather see Yuja since she is better looking, and it would occupy my time. :)

 

Darn, you didn't fall for it. nt, posted on April 10, 2017 at 18:39:14
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What was it? [nt], posted on April 10, 2017 at 18:59:43
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"Danny Boy's" Hammerklavier, posted on April 10, 2017 at 19:18:22
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 OK, I think I get that one, Daniel Barenboim. If not, well, yet another gaffe, feel free to make fun of me.
I had an old Sine Qua Non LP of the Hammerklavier recorded by Danny Boy when he was in his early 20s. It sucked. But many years later, I found the original Command Classics LP in the bins. The sound quality was so much better you could actually hear what the pianist was trying to do. A very good Hammerklavier, it turns out. But still far from one of the greatest renditions of all time, imvho. There is just too much tough competition. And I feel about the same about Yuja's, though that is very good too.
Barenboim the pianist on the whole is not one of my very top faves. To me, Barenboim the conductor is more successful.

 

OK, I can respect that, but. . ., posted on April 10, 2017 at 19:34:48
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 . . . I even more agree that sound quality can influence our perceptions of performances to a surprising degree - sometimes, even decisively - as your story about the Sine Qua Non LP vs. the original Command issue illustrates. So I guess my question is, your experience of Yuja's performance - was that just from uTube or some other low-rez source?

 

Try this one...., posted on April 10, 2017 at 19:52:23
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First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

She's not a babe. [nt], posted on April 10, 2017 at 20:00:43
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I'll bet those are better performances! [nt] ;-), posted on April 10, 2017 at 20:27:02
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RE: Yuja speaks: "if the music is beautiful and sensual, why not dress to fit?", posted on April 10, 2017 at 21:50:39
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 If she plays ugly music like some of the Prokofiev sonatas does she dress ugly?
Alan

 

RE: Nope - is she good? [nt], posted on April 10, 2017 at 21:55:08
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 Here is my favorite female pianist

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Hey, I think you're on to something, Alan, posted on April 11, 2017 at 01:23:37
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 So if she plays Philip Glass, does she dress minimally? (I mean, even more minimally than she usually does?)

BTW, which Prokofiev sonatas are ugly? ;-)

 

I think Grimaud played best when she was 15 - before she studied with Daniel Beerbelly, posted on April 11, 2017 at 01:30:24
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 It's been downhill ever since! ;-)


(recorded before the influence of DB!)

 

RE: "BTW, which Prokofiev sonatas are ugly?", posted on April 11, 2017 at 07:41:16
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 Some aren't favorites, but I don't recall any being 'ugly'.




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Gotcha!, posted on April 11, 2017 at 07:45:51
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 You asked whom I would rather SEE perform the Hammerklavier, not hear. Surely high or low rez makes no difference, I'd rather see Yuja in any rez.
Senioritis, Chris. ;-)

 

RE: "BTW, which Prokofiev sonatas are ugly?", posted on April 11, 2017 at 08:55:59
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 To be clear when I say ugly I don't mean bad. But for example if you compare the last movement of sonata #6 with piano music of debussey I would call the prokofiev ugly. Was trying to make a joke and you guys make an issue out of it. Really?
Alan

 

A "Gotcha" is worth it when your answer is credible! [nt] ;-), posted on April 11, 2017 at 08:58:03
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RE: "BTW, which Prokofiev sonatas are ugly?", posted on April 11, 2017 at 09:11:42
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 If you had said 'like some (both) of the Shostakovich sonatas', I doubt Chris would have questioned it. ;-)


First they came for the dumb-asses
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Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

I'll tune in when she starts Twerking., posted on April 11, 2017 at 09:14:40
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 Maybe during a Jerry Lee Lewis Medley.

 

You guys are learning! ;-), posted on April 11, 2017 at 09:42:39
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 . . . although I have to say that my reaction to Shostakovitch's music is that his works are not really ugly, but, too often, cheesy. ;-)

 

Awww, gosh durn .... nt, posted on April 11, 2017 at 11:31:20
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So what's the difference between Yuja and Liberace? (nt), posted on April 11, 2017 at 12:01:10
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If you have to ask, posted on April 11, 2017 at 14:12:49
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 there is no point in answering.

 

He wore more sequins. And more makeup nt, posted on April 11, 2017 at 16:15:06
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She's just the latest in a line..., posted on April 11, 2017 at 17:08:29
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 ...of shamelessly exhibitionist pianists











 

Liberace didn't play the Hammerklavier? [nt], posted on April 11, 2017 at 17:40:08
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wrong genre but, posted on April 11, 2017 at 18:55:10
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 that is quite a line of great artists. Let's not forget....before rock and roll classical music was rock and roll.

 

He Probably Did......, posted on April 12, 2017 at 04:06:28
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 The one time I heard Liberace play Chopin's A-Flat Major Polonaise Op. 53 "straight" (not the "show" version he usually plays), it was up there with the best..... Not quite Horowitz or Earl Wild, but pretty close.

 

RE: Yuja speaks: "if the music is beautiful and sensual, why not dress to fit?", posted on April 12, 2017 at 04:29:33
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 She's a good pianist, but I don't think she's that good..... I think had she not been so attractive, I think she would have remained obscure.

The few works I've heard both Yuja Wang and Ayako Uehara play (notably Rachmaninoff's Paganini Rhapsody and Tchaikovsky's First Concerto), there was no comparison, Uehara was far-and-above better..... (Uehara's Tchaik Concerto One is one of the best I've heard.) But Ayako doesn't have the "looks" that Yuja has.

 

There's still time...... (nt), posted on April 12, 2017 at 04:47:04
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Ayako was good - is she still playing with any better orchestras than that one?, posted on April 12, 2017 at 10:05:07
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 But it seems the people of the world have spoken, and they prefer Yuja! So do I. Nothing to do with looks - and, as everybody around here knows, I never let a performer's looks influence my musical judgement! ;-)

 

I agree about some of Liberace's. . . uh. . . "straight" performances, posted on April 12, 2017 at 10:07:54
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 But that repertoire (Chopin, Liszt, etc) was still nowhere near the Hammerklavier.

 

RE: Ayako was good - is she still playing with any better orchestras than that one?, posted on April 16, 2017 at 02:38:13
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 Ayako's problem is she hasn't expanded the repertoire..... So instead of playing music she never performed before she's playing in front of orchestras (with the same music) she's never performed with before.

I believe Ayako had a huge opportunity to become more popular, but for some reason had cold feet performing outside of Asia. I have a feeling she feared the tough critics in Europe.

Too bad..... Aside from a Scriabin piece, just about everything I've heard Ayako perform was amongst the best I've heard..... Even the Rachmaninoff Prelude Op 23-2 (bootleg), I don't think I've heard better..... (The one aspect about Ayako which is off the charts is sheer explosiveness from the instrument. This is why I once called her "Herwitz".)

 

RE: Heard anything Angela Brownridge has done?, posted on April 16, 2017 at 07:47:08
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 She's a wonderful pianist. Listen to he Barber CD. The Excursions are really lovely.

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RE: I agree about some of Liberace's. . . uh. . . "straight" performances, posted on April 18, 2017 at 17:09:25
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 I listened to Yuja's "Hammerklavier"..... The way this performance was hyped up here, I was expecting something mindblowing like Ayako Uehara's Liszt "Mephisto Waltz".............

Then chose a random performance of Beethoven's "Hammerklavier"..... Richter's in this case..... Yuja's performance is nice, but not in the same league as Richter's......

 

Hmm. . . not the way I hear it - and I DO like Richter's too! [nt], posted on April 23, 2017 at 00:55:43
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