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Today's used car

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Posted on September 23, 2021 at 10:33:08
Craiger56
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From the house of over-restored,' if you have to ask' vehicles.

I could envision myself pulling in to Alice's Restaurant on Skyline Blvd in this gem on a Sunday morning.

 

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I've always has a soft spot for the Suzuki Samurai. nt, posted on September 23, 2021 at 10:48:09
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 nt



The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.

 

Minimalism is good, posted on September 23, 2021 at 13:52:40
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 When I was working on Mazda's a friend was working on Suzuki's across the street. Through our talks we discovered the two companies philosophy on warranty claims couldn't have been more different, although it could have just been the difference between the two "district service manager's" who called the shots on warranty claims.

Mazda covered most any claim ('80s - '90s) with an emphasis on customer satisfaction.

Suzuki's tact was deny and deflect back then.

 

RE: Today's used car, posted on September 23, 2021 at 17:30:18
JDK
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 They've taken the 1/4 windows away - that's not kosher!

They are one hell of a tough car.
I drove a loaded up diesel tray back one across the middle of Oz on one of the toughest roads imaginable. It ate it up.
But it's battery was not so happy. The corrugations fatigued the battery casing, and or the lead busbars inside and shook the plates loose. The battery was dead one morning and it was open circuit! I never heard of that happening before, or since.


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Toyota's Land Rover. Tough as nails., posted on September 23, 2021 at 17:50:43
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Myself, I owned an '83 Mitsubishi Montero, 2-door style, for years in Alaska.
I swear that car could climb cliffs. Deep snow, mud, rocks, whatever was there was driven through.

Loved that car; has it long time. Women liked it; it gave me stud status.

Iron block, aluminum head on a 2.6 liter 4 cyl motor. It blew head gaskets from dissimilar metals wharpage. The factory fix (finally) was to heliarc weld a bead of reinforcing aluminum crossway between the cylinder domes on the underside of the head.

Had to drive backward to unlock the front hubs. I pitied the fools in Ford Broncos out in the snow drifts doing the same thing by hand on the freezing hubs.

Later imported to the US as the Dodge Raider..




 

RE: Today's used car, posted on September 23, 2021 at 18:33:04
pictureguy
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 The REASON they get that kind of money (Wacky amounts) for a resto-mod is that these things will go ANYWHERE it can get traction.

My brother had one, a RH drive model with the 3.0 Hino Diesel.....a 4 cyl of THAT displacement....And while not in concours shape, it was unstoppable...

He frequentyly bagged on JEEP saying that he had to help more than one which was either stuck or broke.......This when he had his FIRST Land Crusher with a retrofit small block V8.......

SOME parts are still available. He was able to buy some kind of control panel for his dash right from the dealer. Apparently they used the same part# for years.......so still have some demand.
Speedo Shop did the install easily.....and correctly....

I LIKE some Toyota AWD stuff. The last of the FJ Cruiser in the USA trim would be my choice. Still available NEW in other parts of the world and I'll BET 500 Pesos, WITH a diesel option....
Too much is never enough

 

"Tray back" I love it, posted on September 23, 2021 at 18:36:07
Craiger56
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 Had to look that up, great story thanks.

 

RE: Toyota's Land Rover. Tough as nails., posted on September 23, 2021 at 18:38:31
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Sounds like fond memories, thanks.

 

Years ago a friend had a FJ 40 series with a 327 in it , posted on September 23, 2021 at 20:15:04
JDK
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 And side pipes.
Great go anywhere tow car.
A bit heavy on the juice though!



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RE: Years ago a friend had a FJ 40 series with a 327 in it , posted on September 23, 2021 at 23:19:33
pictureguy
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 My understanding is that the reason for the ease of the Chevy small block trsnsplant was that the Japanese bought the older Stovebolt 6 which used some compatible parts. I guess all you need is to change the bellhouseing and engine mounts.
I've never done such a swap, but I think the common parts makes it easier.....???
Too much is never enough

 

RE: Years ago a friend had a FJ 40 series with a 327 in it , posted on September 24, 2021 at 00:54:08
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 I think so.
This one had the stock standard Toyota gearbox, transfer case etc.



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Suzuki had a GM tie-in., posted on September 24, 2021 at 03:01:12
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 Suzuki and GM had a joint factory that produced the Swift and the Geo Metro. Suzuki also sold a lot of rebadged Daewoo cars and Daewoo is owned by GM.
According to Scotty Kilmer, GM is currently defending itself against warranty claims in a class action lawsuit, claiming that its warranty only covers defects of manufacture, not defects of design.



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RE: Today's used car, posted on September 24, 2021 at 03:27:57
dark_dave56
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 I don't understand why so many people do the engine/drivetrain swaps on those old Land Cruisers. Other than a desire for more hp, there's no reason not to keep and rebuild/update the originals--especially if you've got a diesel. Torque is what "crawls" off-road, hp is for desert-racing.

I've seen a lot of those restored/resto-modded old Land Cruisers cross the auction block well into the six-figure range. Same applies for the original Land Rover Defenders--although I can see why you would want to swap-out that drivetrain.


"And today is for sale and it's all you can afford. Buy your own admission. The whole things got you bored. Well the Lord chooses the good ones, and the bad ones use the Lord"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP

 

Don't forget..., posted on September 24, 2021 at 03:32:48
dark_dave56
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 ...the Geo/Chevy Tracker was a Suzuki Sidekick. In fact, NONE of the Geo line-up (some of which were later changed to a Chevy badge) were actually GM vehicles.


"And today is for sale and it's all you can afford. Buy your own admission. The whole things got you bored. Well the Lord chooses the good ones, and the bad ones use the Lord"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP

 

I always liked those Mitsus..., posted on September 24, 2021 at 03:42:14
dark_dave56
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 ...but around here, you could put your fist through virtually any body-panel within a couple years due to corrosion.


"And today is for sale and it's all you can afford. Buy your own admission. The whole things got you bored. Well the Lord chooses the good ones, and the bad ones use the Lord"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP

 

RE: I've always has a soft spot for the Suzuki Samurai. nt, posted on September 24, 2021 at 03:43:28
dark_dave56
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 Another one that dissolved like an Alka-Seltzer in these parts...


"And today is for sale and it's all you can afford. Buy your own admission. The whole things got you bored. Well the Lord chooses the good ones, and the bad ones use the Lord"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP

 

Suzuki and Daewoo... I have had both!, posted on September 24, 2021 at 04:28:34
TWB
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 We had a 1999 Daewoo Leganza... It was okay for the price. With a Lotus tuned suspension it certainly rode nice. The engine was relatively quiet and adequate. People always asked about the car as they liked the look of it.. After that car we bought a 2005 Suzuki Aerio. Next to the 1994 VW Jetta it was probably the worst car we have had... The only thing I will say good about that car is the 2.3L engine was strong and powerful for the size vehicle but it sure was noisy! It also had a high roofline which I appreciate being 6'1". In retrospect we should have bought the Ford Focus that I wanted instead but the Mrs. wanted the more powerful noisy engine....

 

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