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8 hours without a cigarette

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Posted on June 27, 2017 at 13:48:16
bullethead



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after watching the documentary above been 8 hours without a cigarette, switched to vape.

I'll chime in here if I fall, but not having stresses too much for a change means it is the perfect time to switch habits.

eventually the goal is to get off the nic and reduce milligrams and then be vape free as well.

just for comparison, I would have smoked about a pack and a half in about 8 hours.

 

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quit or don't, no drama. Quit.. or don't bother pretending. nt, posted on June 27, 2017 at 16:18:59
3+4=5
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posted a useful documentary, posted on June 27, 2017 at 16:34:57
bullethead
 posted a useful powerful documentary.

just in case there are other addicts here.

 

RE: 8 hours without a cigarette, posted on June 27, 2017 at 17:40:45
Tweaker456
 There is some science behind the ability of lobelia to help get off nicotine. One or two studies on lobeline in German that can't be read from pubmed and some animal studies. Over at Earth Clinic a few people are raving about the ability of lobelia ticture to help get of cigarettes. Lobeline is a nicotine receptor agonist. If you are to try this you can't go hog wild with the dose. I would suggest dosing like the people at Earth Clinic used. Too much lobelia can make you puke... This has to be used with care. There are people at "drugs forum" that are also getting great results with this herb. This looks like the real deal. I just read that it is approved in Germany for this use. T456

 

Well I guess it's a start, posted on June 27, 2017 at 17:52:28
JDK
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 I smoked from age 15 to 45.
I stopped and restarted a few times until I finally did reach the mindset that smoking was killing me - maybe not in a spectacular way, but that it was killing me one little bit at a time, one ciggie at a time.

When the stress caused by smoking begins to exceed the stress caused by whatever it is that makes you want to smoke, you reach quitting point.

After several false starts, where the will was not strong enough, I have now totally kicked it - cold turkey - Over 10 years cancer stick free now.

There is no desire to smoke left in me now.


Trying to hide from entropy
John K

 

Quitting is not the same for everyone ..., posted on June 27, 2017 at 18:50:02
reelsmith.
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 I have friends who have tried to quite many times.

Some who have quit for years, but then gone back.

I know folks who've tried the patch, Nicorette, vape and even hypnotism.

I smoked from about 8 or 9 until 32, when my wife and I decided we wanted to have kids.

We both quit, cold turkey.

About 20 years later I was offered a cigarette. I enjoyed it.

I now smoke about two packs a year... and really do enjoy it. But have no desire to become a smoker again.

This makes my friends who smoke nuts.

I'm not sure it is solely a matter of willpower, as I am not able to quite drinking.

I don't drink excessively and have stopped for months and even years at a time.

But I can't quit.

Best of luck to you. Its hard to give up anything you enjoy.

Dean.









reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.


 

Best of luck Bullethead and beware of Google experts recommending unstudied, unregulated, supplements & herbs, posted on June 27, 2017 at 19:18:43
Road Warrior
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 that have severe side effects. I saw a recommendation made for Lobelia. Proceed with great caution, side effects are potentially severe plus, with an unregulated substance, do you REALLY trust the manufacturer's claim of potency, purity, etc.? There are effective, FDA approved, substances available. Lobelia is not one, no matter how many unverified anectdotal stories abound. It's NOT the "real thing".

"The reason you've heard lobelia described as a toxic herb is that high doses cause serious effects: nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, profuse sweating, tremors, rapid heartbeat, mental confusion, convulsions, hypothermia, coma, and possibly death."

Congrats on taking a first step with vaping.


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RE: Best of luck Bullethead and beware of Google experts recommending unstudied, unregulated, supplements & herbs, posted on June 27, 2017 at 20:22:04
Tweaker456
 Yo RW, please warn him that high doses of cigarette smoke can cause heart disease, lung cancer and emphysema and I'm sure other wonderful things. Not to mention the real or potential effects of his massively high sodium intake. Nice to know that the cigarette industry is well regulated to protect peoples health along with allowing unnaturally hydrogenated fats in our food and massive amounts of salt... Yo, Bullethead, please rely on government regulations to save you. Boy oh boy, the government even allows you to buy dangerous herbs. Be afraid, be very afraid. Especially be afraid of taking like 60 drops of lobelia tincture a day.

 

I agree , posted on June 27, 2017 at 21:06:36
Timbo in Oz
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 once addicted ....

But, I did stop!




Warmest

Tim Bailey

Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger


 

When I quit in early 20's placed an ashtray full in clear view.. Worked., posted on June 27, 2017 at 21:43:15
3+4=5
 Later on in my late 30's I started again for stupid reasons..
Second time I calculated the COST of continuing for more 30 years.. Realized I could then BUY A BRAND NEW CORVETTE for the price of all the smokes I would have burned.
(and that was way before the crazy prices of cigs now)
When I wanted a cigarette... I thought of that car...

Now I look back and think what a stupid stinking ugly habit. I really must have been insane to have ever smoked.
When I see old movies and all the cigarette smoking, I want to gag.

 

RE: 8 hours without a cigarette, posted on June 28, 2017 at 05:25:00
Phil_S
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 After smoking for 30 years, I quit. It wasn't easy, kicking an addiction never is. In my case I used a nicotine patch. Kept it on for 3 months and that "cured" the automatic response to a cigarette with coffee, after a meal, etc...Kinda like re-training your responses to various stimulation.

The really tough part for me was getting off the patch. During the 3 months on the patch the body is still getting it's fix. When I stopped, all hell broke out. I didn't want a cigarette I wanted nicotine!

All the classic withdrawal symptoms popped up - I was pissed off at everything. Lost a job to that but I kept at it and have not had a cigarette in 15 years.

It takes determination and focus, I used anger. Getting off cigarettes became very very important to me. It wasn't a casual endeavor.

Good luck with your journey...It CAN be done!

 

RE: 8 hours without a cigarette, posted on June 28, 2017 at 07:49:16
b.l.zeebub
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 Just had a look on Google, Germany and could not find any evidence that Lobelin is a approved for use on humans in that country.
It is however approved for horses and dogs to stimulate breathing.
The other thing I learned there is that a small amount of lobelin may make you puke but a large amount may kill you. Indication of an overdose include raised pulse rate, loss of blood pressure, paralysis and coma.

 

RE: 8 hours without a cigarette, posted on June 28, 2017 at 08:10:16
bullethead
 I new a man who's attitude changed so much after he quit smoking he was fired as well.

lucky for me I am unemployed right now. perfect time to do it, I can go out in the backyard and chop down a tree or something if I get pissed.

the vape technology really has come far since 10 years or so ago I tried it last, also I don't get looked like at like a freak, because the 1,000th monkeys are already doing it, like to say I was an early adopter but now it is commonplace, lots of vape shops all around.

 

RE: 8 hours without a cigarette, posted on June 28, 2017 at 09:03:53
Tweaker456
 I couldn't find any info on it's approved use for cigarette smoking in Germany either, just the comment. A purified or extract form used to be sold over the counter and was taken off because it was concluded that it was ineffective in ending smoking. If you do a search on Amazon or Earth Clinic or drugsforum you will find people who feel they got great result helping them stop smoking?? It is used to make people puke. It is legal and readily available. Below is a treatist on the subject of it's toxicity. Regardless of the science showing it ineffective if I were addicted to cigarettes I would give it a try for two reasons. One, the extreme difficulty of getting off cigarettes and nicotine and the glowing accounts of it's effectiveness, along with the proven long term safety of low doses of the herbal drug and it's documented safe use over a very long period of time. It does fit into the nicotine receptors which I find interesting. T456

 

RE: 8 hours without a cigarette, posted on June 28, 2017 at 09:09:23
Lee of Omaha
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 To quote Homer Simpson, "Quitting cold turkey isn't nearly as delicious as it sounds."

I watched my Mom die slowly, not of lung cancer, but of failing teeth, mind, and organs due to oxygen insufficiency due to COPD, due in turn to 68 years of smoking (age 12 to age 80). She quit, cold turkey, at 80, and never smoked again, but the damage was done and cumulative. She lived a pretty shitty last 10 or so years. While she died at 94, I'm pretty sure she was genetically programmed to live to be a hundred or so and robbed herself of life and significant quality of life.

Smoking is an addiction; nicotine is highly addicting. Quit however you can, whatever way works for you. It isn't one size fits all.

 

RE: 8 hours without a cigarette, posted on June 28, 2017 at 12:21:07
Sondek
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 Said it before, but smoking is a dirty, filthy, nasty, disgusting, expensive, dangerous, smelly habit that I thoroughly enjoyed for 20 years or so. The time finally came though when I woke up and realized how much my habit was controlling me. You gotta take back the control. Stay the path, man.

 

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