The very first 2018 Toyota Camry is at a Dealership!

RE: The very first 2018 Toyota Camry is at a Dealership!, posted on June 10, 2017 at 06:16:20
kitch29	I had to drive a leased '15 100 miles back to the dealer for a relative. Pillowy ride, numb steering and poor handling reminded me of a '78 Buick I once had. At least with the Buick it was possible to stretch out in back and have her leave footprints in the headliner.

I've had the Entry Level Camry for 13 years, great, reliable car. nt, posted on June 10, 2017 at 06:29:06
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RE: The very first 2018 Toyota Camry is at a Dealership!, posted on June 10, 2017 at 06:40:06
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	Kitch29, This 2018 Camry is a lot better! Call this number for more info 1-888-522-3931 Toyota of Naperville They have a White SE Model

RE: The very first 2018 Toyota Camry is at a Dealership!, posted on June 10, 2017 at 08:16:06

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I've owned 3 Camry's over the decades including a "SE" model. Family has owned a few too including my sister who owns a 2 year old Camry SE. While the SE models are a little stiffer and handle a little better and don't feel quite as 'floaty' as the others, they are definitely not sport sedans.

BMW, Audi, Mercedes, VW, have nothing to worry about from Toyota in that segment. The Camry is a nice family car, the SE adds a little sport sedan wannabe facelift.

When I think of true entry level sport sedans I think of BMW 3-series, Audi A3/A4, Mercedes C300, and maybe a couple VW models. Camry SE doesn't come to mind.

Do you work for a Toyota dealership? ;-), posted on June 10, 2017 at 08:19:31
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RE: Do you work for a Toyota dealership? ;-), posted on June 10, 2017 at 08:27:05
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	No

RE Of course he doesn't work for one, he owns it ;-) nt, posted on June 10, 2017 at 08:32:51
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RE: RE Of course he doesn't work for one, he owns it ;-) nt, posted on June 10, 2017 at 08:38:19
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	No, I do not own a dealership

RE: Do you work for a Toyota dealership? ;-), posted on June 10, 2017 at 08:42:41
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46280 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	Just ribbing you! Nothing wrong with the Camry. They're solid cars, probably the most trouble-free and long term reliable I have ever owned.

RE: The very first 2018 Toyota Camry is at a Dealership!, posted on June 10, 2017 at 08:50:11
bcowen Audiophile Posts: 1076 Location: North Carolina Joined: December 19, 2015	It looks like the 2018's are actually being equipped with engines as standard equipment. Cool! Maybe they'll have enough power now to get the hell out of the left lane. Around here, Camry drivers are only slightly less worse than minivan drivers. And I'll refrain from posting the 4 letter words needed to describe Prius drivers....

Call this number for more info 1-888-522-3931 Toyota of Naperville, posted on June 10, 2017 at 09:07:24
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Floaty, posted on June 10, 2017 at 09:18:45

Inmate51

Just as a comment about that "feel", I used to have an early Acura Legend. It was an '89. Nice car. Chicks dug it. I especially liked the 4-settings 7-band equalizer. ;) It drove and handled well. When it came time to get new tires, I made the mistake of getting Pirelli's. The car suddenly felt like I was driving on balloons - kind of like the old Buicks and Cadillacs. I could NOT get rid of those tires fast enough.

All I'm sayin' is that the ride and handling has a LOT to do with the tires.

:)

RE: Floaty, posted on June 10, 2017 at 10:24:26

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All I'm sayin' is that the ride and handling has a LOT to do with the tires.

Absolutely. IMHO there's no perfect tire. You pay the price of a harsher ride with low profile tires and an increased chance of a blow-out when you hit a bump in the road. I know, it happened to me but fortunately my low profile tires were run-flats.... which have other issues I won't go into here. In this case, I was able to get to where I needed to be on time because I was able to drive on the run-flats.

Taller sidewalls typically have a nicer ride. I experienced this in another vehicle identical to mine but with their 'standard' tires vs the low profiles I had on mine. Quieter too.

I had a 1993 Toyota Camry SE with manual transmission. I enjoyed that car a lot but thinking back, it was nothing like a true sport sedan like an Audi or BMW.

I think every tire brand has had good and not so good formulations over the years. I really loved the Pirelli's on my old VW GTi but they wore out fast. The price you pay for sticky rubber I guess.

Reminds me of..., posted on June 10, 2017 at 11:59:49
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That has to be a first., posted on June 10, 2017 at 17:48:43
grantv Manufacturer Posts: 7724 Location: B.C. Joined: January 15, 2002	Never seen anybody so excited about a plain Jane family car. Toyota is a good brand, but it's also known as a simple family car brand for the most part (particularly the 4 door variants). Assuming you are in some way, directly or indirectly, gainfully employed by Toyota?

That is just about as interesting as hearing that a local McDonald's got a new batch of frozen fries in stock., posted on June 10, 2017 at 19:35:20
3+4=5	Toyota is about as boring as a McD burger.

We leased one for 3 years back around 2000, an entry level one too, posted on June 10, 2017 at 21:49:21
Road Warrior Audiophile Posts: 21653 Location: Dallas Joined: August 31, 2004	4 or 5 oil changes and that was it. Not a second of downtime from anything. ---------------------- "E Burres Stigano?"

Now, now!, posted on June 11, 2017 at 00:09:37
FenderLover	Reliable can be a little more exciting, than watching dustg settle on the window sills. No? 8^)

2003 Camry ACV36R? 2.4L VTI - 4-speed auto?, posted on June 11, 2017 at 02:46:21
Timbo in Oz Audiophile Posts: 23221 Location: Canberra - in the ACT - SE Australia Joined: January 30, 2002	Good reliable car, we kept ours almost as long as you. I think the Australian sold cars had stiffer suspension that in the USA. Ours was the fleet car version and didn't have ABS brakes. Warmest Tim Bailey Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger

Well..., posted on June 11, 2017 at 10:41:14
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Sure it is., posted on June 11, 2017 at 11:32:49
grantv Manufacturer Posts: 7724 Location: B.C. Joined: January 15, 2002	But you must admit that ...posting about a Camry is like posting about a new Sears receiver (that knowingly doesn't perform well, etc.). :)

Reviews coming out on the 2018 Camry..., posted on June 11, 2017 at 19:20:16
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	June 21st we will find out if this Camry is any good or not... The 2018 Camry will be out in July.

RE: The very first 2018 Toyota Camry is at a Dealership!, posted on June 11, 2017 at 22:52:30
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22597 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	Yawn. Photo of me after hearing about the terrific Camry News. Too much is never enough

And many just love to give their money to repair shops..., posted on June 12, 2017 at 03:17:38
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	Sad but true but many end up spending a lot of money at repair shops.. down the road when buying other brands of cars!

RE: And many just love to give their money to repair shops..., posted on June 12, 2017 at 13:35:43

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My WIfe's '07 Camry had a water pump die at about 40k to 45k range. I had a BOSCH pump put in. No idea who actually made it, but 60k+ later, it's still good.
Window Visors were JUNK. So bad that I couldn't even source 'em at a Junk Yard. Toyota wanted north of 100$ each so I said Screw It. Later? Recalled and new visors installed Gratis.
Now the Motor. Some assembly problem led to HUGE oil consumption issues. I think some people abuse there motors. We had the 'test' and didn't use hardly ANY oil so were 'cleared' for now. I used nothing BUT good Synthetic since Day 1 and changed at factory Intervals. (7500 miles?)
Car continues in Service with Sis-In-Law and driven by the goofy kid, who actually takes CARE of her car.
Own a 'Lament one year newer. Same size engine and same type 5 speed tranny. But the Honda seems to have a better 4 cyl motor. Shifts down a LOT less and can make it up some grades in cruise without Drama. Camry would shift down if you stuck your arm out the window creating extra drag. Similar HP to the Honda and better aerodynamics. For long distance travel, I suspect the V-6 would have been the better choice in the Camry.
Too much is never enough

RE: And many just love to give their money to repair shops..., posted on June 12, 2017 at 14:37:50

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When cars comes out with a new generation.. NEVER BUY the FIRST YEAR of a NEW GENERATION!..

I've been buying Camrys since 1990 and have never had any problems with any of them! You can get 500,000 to 1,000,000 miles out these Camrys if you take care of them!

One of the very best cars on the road if you ask me!

It couldn't be Uglier, posted on June 15, 2017 at 10:29:24
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2018 vs 2017 WOW , posted on June 18, 2017 at 03:49:01

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This 2018 Camry's "World-Class" engine and transmission is much better!

Click on "Show More" below this video for more info on "Camry.. World-Class Now"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EscjWEQp4Y

RE: 2018 vs 2017 WOW ! "Very Fun To Drive Now"!, posted on June 26, 2017 at 04:22:38

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This new 2018 must be very fun to drive now! >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWKtO7jQtJg

RE: It couldn't be Uglier, posted on June 27, 2017 at 22:30:03
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22597 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	But they'll SELL bunches of 'em. Too much is never enough

They have already started making the 2018 Camry at the Georgetown Plant!, posted on June 30, 2017 at 20:07:30

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The 2018 Camry will be at dealers the 15th of July!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqppxTFeab0

Camry & Accord both made in USA, posted on July 1, 2017 at 12:48:34
Jay Buridan Audiophile Posts: 10271 Location: Michigan Joined: January 21, 2004	...with more domestic content than most big 3 models. Plus, they run for a few years without major breakdown. I'm looking at either Camry or Avalon for my next intelligent auto purchase. "Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. " ― W.C. Fields

RE: Camry & Accord both made in USA, posted on July 1, 2017 at 21:51:37

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Brother in law just bought a '17 Accord right from the 'bottom' of the line. Amazing content and considerng it is a FRACTION of the cost of a similar Acura from about '87, being faster, more power, better economy, more space inside, has ABS, better safety features and sells for LESS than 1/2 the inflation adjusted price?
Sign Me Up.
Wife's '16 Mazda6 is also amazingly well equipped for a bottom of the line automotilbe. Just like the Accord, it has Bluetooth for phone and music. Some differences include built in Navigation which needs only a chip install to function.
Too much is never enough

RE: Camry & Accord both made in USA, posted on July 2, 2017 at 13:56:52
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	pictureguy The Accord has a turbo engine and all turbo engines made today have a lot problems just like they did in the past! I would never buy a car with a turbo engine!

RE: Camry & Accord both made in USA, posted on July 2, 2017 at 15:16:48

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Buddy bought an early Nissan Pulsar NX with Turbo motor. It lasted only a few months before Nissan issued a modification kit to convert center bearing to Water Cooled. This is 30 or more years ago.

Problem with Turbo Motors, as I view it, is that people are HARD on the equipment and don't treat the engine right. Oil changes with the BEST available is mandatory. Coking of the center bearing can result from early shutoff without allowing a few minutes of cool-down / spin-down for the turbo. Drive 70+ on the freeway, exit to a restaurant and shut it off on a 100f day? A recipe for short turbo life.

I've been passed on the street by guys who had installed elaborate Turbo Systems who STILL didn't know what they were doing. You can tell by the fact that they fast idle from a stop light, shift and you can HEAR the pop of the wastegate. Way too aggressive a boost curve! Motors might last 10,000 miles. Less if they do not change the oil and continue to drive like Idiots.

Long Haul Trucks which DEPEND on such motors routinely are equipped with Exhaust Gas Temp gauges and OIL Temp gauges.

If boost is kept fairly low, maybe 6psi to 9psi, and engine compression is also low, I don't see why HONDA reliability should suffer. I've been wrong before!

*Boy, was I wrong: Honda 2.0 Turbo in the Civic R Type is OVER 300hp and OVER 20 psi boost.
That's a bunch and I can see engine lifetime suffering as a result. *

Brother owns the 409 Scorpion Engine in his F350. A MONSTER Diesel with over 800ft/lb of twist. OH! that's the 6.7 V-8 ... 409 just sounds so much cooler.
He was a long haul trucker and I'll personally guarantee this thing goes the distance. Towing a house. This engine is a 16:1 CR which is low by non-turbo diesel standards, where I'm used to seeing around 20:1 as the norm. But it IS aggressively Turbo'd.
Too much is never enough

http://www.trucktrend.com/cool-trucks/0607dp-exhaust-gas-tem

RE: Camry & Accord both made in USA, posted on July 4, 2017 at 10:24:51
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	The 2018 Accord will be on the market the 14th of July, it's going to be a lot fun..who will come out on top? Camry! or Accord?

RE: Camry & Accord both made in USA, posted on July 4, 2017 at 11:32:04
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22597 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	Either way you slice it, they sell about 1000 per day of each, nationwide. Too much is never enough

RE: And many just love to give their money to repair shops..., posted on July 6, 2017 at 10:57:03
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22597 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	Neighbor drove his Avalon until it ceased to function and needed substantial fixing. I'm guessing at in the 200k+ range easily. He drove it a LOT. Too much is never enough

Has the Handling Dynamics of a Audi S series!, posted on July 8, 2017 at 07:58:17

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This 2018 Camry has the Handling Dynamics of a Audi S series..this reviewer says!

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/camry/2018/2018-toyota

RE: Has the Handling Dynamics of a Audi S series! said the professional race car driver who races Ferraris!, posted on July 8, 2017 at 10:25:22
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	Only 7 days until this 2018 Camry will be at dealers! I can't wait to see if this 2018 Camry has the handling dynamics of a Audi S series like the "professional race car driver.. who races Ferraris" said they did!

2018 Camry is now on the market! Feedback is Amazing!, posted on July 16, 2017 at 16:26:49

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This person says.."I don't care what you drive, Lexus or whatever! You have to come drive this Camry!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvzF1AXSkcY

The 2023 Camry will look MORE like..., posted on July 20, 2017 at 06:36:56

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The 2023 Camry will look more like the 2018 Lexus LC 500 wow!

The 2018 Accord looks very bad! It looks like something made back in the 90's ,inside and out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViC2l-UxYXU

2018 Camry on a Racetrack!, posted on July 27, 2017 at 13:55:46

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This Camry Handles as good as a race car!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgJC-KqBfV0

The Paddle Shifters on the SE are Quicker than the paddle shifters on the very sporty..., posted on July 29, 2017 at 14:52:51

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The paddle shifters on the Camry SE are quicker than the paddle shifters on the sporty 2018 Corvette!..wow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWazrq_gl1E

2018 Camry is now one of the smoothest and quietest sedans on the market!, posted on August 2, 2017 at 13:48:42

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Everyman driver reviewer says this new Camry is one of the best sedans on the market and he's reviewed a Rolls Royce Ghost and a Mercedes Maybach!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPbBctfNyhA

The new Accord should be very worried about the new Camry!, posted on August 20, 2017 at 15:49:54

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As good as Luxury Sedans! Staying number one in it's class is in the bag!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V-6RtBVV54

This is going to Shock you all Big Time...., posted on August 24, 2017 at 12:47:15

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All Luxury Sedans needs to worry about this new Camry now!..

http://www.finance.yahoo.com/news/took-tesla-model-toyota-ca

A Luxury Sedan Lover just Raves about the new Camry??, posted on September 1, 2017 at 06:18:27

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Ed Wallace from Dallas Fort-Worth only raves about luxury sedans so why he raving about A.. C A M R Y ?..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sPMHb3mVV8

RE: A Luxury Sedan Lover just Raves about the new Camry??, posted on September 21, 2017 at 16:40:30

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I took a ride in a 2018 Camry XLE 4 cylinder and I see why Ed Wallace was raving about this car, it rides as good as my friend's new BMW 7 Series!

The 4 cylinder engine feels much more like a V6, the power of this engine will shock you!

The Camry is very quiet inside the cabin, almost as quiet as the BMW!

I also thought the seat Comfort in the Camry was on the same level as in the BMW 7 Series too!

The stereo in the BMW sounded a little better but was very very close! The JBL stereo in the Camry is really good, it will shock you how good it sounds!

They should call this car.. Lexus Camry!

Why buy a junky Turbo when you can have..., posted on September 27, 2017 at 03:44:32

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Turbo power without the turbo!😁👍

The 4-cylinder Camry has turbo power without the junky turbo!😎

0 to 60 in just 5.5 seconds for a non-turbo 4-cylinder engine!😜😎

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhHptlpa2A

The 2018 Honda Accord lovers is going to have...., posted on September 28, 2017 at 14:59:52

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The 2018 Accord Lovers is going to have Heartache👏😢 when they find out how quick😜 the non-turbo 4-cylinder engine is in the 2018 Toyota Camry!😁😎

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlQu5WxsJY8

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