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ElectroVoice brotherhood

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Posted on September 22, 2015 at 19:24:45
Wojciech
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It's good that vintage EV is (with a few exceptions) still sort of affordable. I pulled my REgal 300 from the basement and I have to say it's quite wonderful actually once you get rid of ST35 tweeters. I really like old Jensen RP103 almost as much(or more )as pictured EV ST350 in this setup
Notice semi open air placement of fullrange alnico SP8 crossed at ~100hz-300hz and 3.5kHz. Don't pass it over if you happen to stumble on a pair .crossover needs update and film 100uF on fullrange does some nice things
I can't believe I had this in a basement for a few years and didn't have an inclination to work on it . I sort of pulled it out to dust it off and maybe try to sell it , well it's not going anywhere for a time being ..

 

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RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 22, 2015 at 20:36:09
Coner
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 Yes, good sounding drivers, but you mean't T35, T350, not ST's.

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 22, 2015 at 21:17:21
Wojciech
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 Yes I meant t35B and T350. When crossed at 10k T350 is one of the best tweeters ever made (even if it only goes to 15Khz with favorable wind ) but at 3.5kz first order as in Regal I think longer horn of Jensen RP103 sounds more natural and I'm already scheming of RP103 and a ribbon over at 12K . or maybe the fullrange LS8 derivative (it has hard suspension , alnico magnet and big vent hole in that magnet ) could be taken little higher than 3.5kz maybe even to 7 Khz? In that case T350 would be the choice.
PS . My friend thinks that that 12" bass foam driver is second only to his Lowther PM5 in fullrange open baffle application up to 6-7khz, simply outstanding sleeper of a driver in a sort ...
Geez , maybe it's time to pull from the basement that 4 way jensen cab with low squawker midhorn driven by 4-5" phenolic cone driver...

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 22, 2015 at 21:58:11
Coner
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 Yes...the Jensen should be better at 3.5K, larger (deeper) horn, and
the 350 better suited for 5K up. Maybe use both!.

I'm with you, the foam cones do sound great, to bad they stopped
using them. I have the 18W's with foam cones. And 30W's too.

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 22, 2015 at 22:05:51
grindstone
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 Yeah, it's like a "tone" thing at some level, but (IMO) my hunch is that you'd use different parts at the 100% Horn system than you'd use with only a tweeter horn. At least, I know that I've battled some directivity vs. sensitivity issues. Blending and dynamics are always hard.

Hmmm. Rewind. EV made a lot of parts I find easier to listen-to than I find comfort in viewing their measurements? I like a lot of EV parts. Thanks for posting and good luck!

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 23, 2015 at 06:08:46
Wojciech
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 French Cabasse speakers used to use foam cones just that they voiced their speakers to be anechoically flat so they were quite unforgiving and hard to listen for extended period of time with variety of music. They used their coax driver arrangement and the staging and stereophony was outstanding to the point of mimicking multi channel-a French JBL

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 23, 2015 at 09:24:10
Inmate51
 Cabasse. Ha! Back in the day, in Switzerland (1974), I was given minimal, but very high quality, audio tools to use. I specifically remember using a couple of Cabasse speakers in a "mini array" in, I think, St. Maurice, to reinforce the narrator's voice for "Peter and The Wolf". I positioned two of their 2 or 3-way speakers in an "arrayed/angled/oriented" below center stage - right below the narrator. They were great. I still love listening to that performance.

Anyway, my current main speaker tweeters are E-V T350. Directional, yes. Duh. Excellent, yes.

:)

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 23, 2015 at 19:25:05
electrovice
 There is an Allied Knight version of the EV 12TRXB that uses a foam cone for the woofer. The Knight model number is KN600 HC. It was limited in its production run and was replaced at some point with the KN 612 HC that uses a standard paper cone. These are very heavy speakers weighing about 30 pounds each. They use ceramic magnets.

Neither of these seem to get much love on ebay probably due to their weight.

John

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on September 24, 2015 at 11:08:28
Inmate51
 As a bit of trivia, the famous Grateful Dead "wall of sound" used T350 tweeters.

:)

 

Picture (up close), posted on September 24, 2015 at 14:22:39
djk
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RE: Picture (up close), posted on September 24, 2015 at 17:57:18
Inmate51
 Those were the daze!

Thanks for that!

:)

 

Durable Drivers, posted on May 8, 2020 at 15:33:04
dayradebaugh@hotmail.com
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 I inherited a set of 12 "Knight KN 612 HC 3 way speakers in an enclosure built by my Dad. Speakers are cosmetically beautiful, in spite of being stored in a warehouse for 20 yrs. But they sound pretty buzzy with a fair amount of static. I don't think they're very high compliance anymore; I suspect the cones are fairly brittle and dried out.

Anyone have a recommendation for a replacement? They should be able to handle 100W or better, and be durable enough to survive in a shop which is hot in the summer and cold in the winter. Does not have to be High End, just a) durable in hostile environment; b) able to make a lot of sound; c) reasonably priced.

Thanks

 

RE: Durable Drivers, posted on May 8, 2020 at 19:14:17
Bill Fitzmaurice
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 You'll have much better luck starting a new thread in the regular speaker section instead of tagging onto a five year old thread totally unrelated to your question.

 

RE: Durable Drivers, posted on May 8, 2020 at 19:49:47
dayradebaugh@hotmail.com
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 Thanks!

 

RE: Durable Drivers, posted on May 9, 2020 at 05:52:50
Bill Fitzmaurice
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 Also, it's a really bad idea to use an email address as a username. Bots cruise the web looking for email addresses to bombard with spam.

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on May 15, 2020 at 09:14:23
Don Reid
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 Those who want to hear a really good horn tweeter should check out the Fostex t900a, t500a or other modern horn tweeters.
I dream of an America where a chicken can cross the road without having it's motives questioned.

 

RE: ElectroVoice brotherhood , posted on May 18, 2020 at 13:51:20
DaveV
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 I'll never forget the surprise I got when I had to take a pair of EV Esquires and a Scott 340B to get the Empire turntable I wanted because it was a package deal for $75.
I still have the Esquires and will never get rid of them because I've never heard a new small speaker regardless of price I like better.
The Regal was one step up from the Esquire and had slightly better bass extension.
I'm not sure about the Regal but EV did eventually cheapen the later Esquires with a lesser quality mid driver and no wood box around it.
The T350 does sound better than the T35 but it is way overkill in efficiency for the Regal or Esquire.
Maybe a polyester or paper in oil cap for the T35/T35B will do the trick for you?

 

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