Message Sort: Post Order or Asylum Reverse Threaded
Are Audiophiles here disappointed with multichannel?
101.164.166.114 |
||
Posted on April 10, 2017 at 10:41:16 | ||
Posts: 41
Joined: August 2, 2010 |
Am I right that most audiophiles have given up on multichannel, and moving back to stereo? Or never ventured away from stereo? As example, the new high end Marantz SA-10 SACD player, where Marantz support hi-res stereo (SACD), but purposefully don't bother with multichannel. Do you think this reflects where the market is heading, or just a general disappointment with multichannel audio - perhaps the latter is more the confines of TV audio and hollywood movies? |
Speaking for my own self, heck no ^, posted on April 10, 2017 at 22:45:41 | |
Posts: 21654
Location: Dallas Joined: August 31, 2004 |
---------------------- "E Burres Stigano?" |
"We happy few!" and it's not a game. (NT), posted on April 11, 2017 at 12:41:02 | |
Posts: 12436
Location: New York Joined: June 5, 2002 |
|
RE: Quite different, in fact., posted on April 13, 2017 at 07:36:35 | |
Posts: 12436
Location: New York Joined: June 5, 2002 |
I agree but I am not one of those who desire the totally immersive experience. |
RE: We must hear things differently :), posted on April 13, 2017 at 11:56:15 | |
Posts: 37648
Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002 |
Well, we are off topic. It's certainly on topic for me regarding the assertion I quoted ("one can always assemble a better sounding Mch system than a stereo."). Always? I find that a great system always begins with speakers that achieve a certain level of performance. Indeed the CLS suffered from limited panel area. Even the larger CLX has but half the area of mine. I find that 600 watts of tube power provides sufficient dynamic output. I get measurably flat response to 30 hz in my room (pic in gallery) which works fine for my needs. That was achieved with careful placement and a small forest of bass traps. I do not think we can directly hear dispersion patterns Perhaps I am just hyper sensitive to coherency as I definitely do. A piano, for example, should radiate sound as if it is a single instrument. I was never a fan of early JBL speakers because they operated the midrange driver a good octave too high for consistent directivity and possessed a "fun house mirror" sort of image perspective from a frequency standpoint. Delivering consistent directivity has been a design consideration for many speaker manufacturers as of late. Even with sound reinforcement companies like Danley Sound Labs. All I'm saying is your "always" is apparently not shared by many other inmates given the limited responses to this thread. To each his own. :) |
RE: We must hear things differently :), posted on April 13, 2017 at 15:32:46 | |
Posts: 37648
Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002 |
My opinion was, as you can see, also qualified by a minimum price. You cannot do it for a few thousand bucks. Understood. You'll find I have several components in the main system which meet your minimum alone. I think you'll find a number of exceptional two channel systems found here like that of inmate Mike Lavigne's that also meet your requirements. Harry Pearson was a dear friend and mentor for over thirty years. He certainly believed in the value of MC and Telarc released a sampler of his favorite cuts called "The Absolute Sound SACD Sampler". In the liner notes, he describes in detail why he chose each track. He gave me a copy in 2006 and provided a personalized overview of his thoughts while listening during one visit. And while he had a wonderful MC system (cabling alone was ~$30,000), he always returned to what I also found to deliver a more realistic sound overall with the spectacular two channel systems in Room 3. I respect and admire your Sound Labs speakers. I have heard them a number of times, including at the home of a recording engineer friend in a thoroughly treated room. That was a 5.0 configuration driven by a Meitner DAC in pure DSD mode. Wow, five U-1PXes would run $135k by themselves. Deep bass not there? Something was wrong. But, I do not think dispersion is one of them, since we cannot hear dispersion unless we have many more ears than two pointing at many more angles. I continue to disagree. I think trained listeners can tell when a wavefront's shape is frequency dependent and demonstrates different amounts of indirect radiation - at least if their head is not locked in a vise. What I like most about my arrangement is that the soundfield changes very little whether you sit down, stand up, are close to the speaker, further back, in front or directly behind the speakers. That's the kind of coherency I sense with live, unamplified music. Like regularly hearing wifey play her baby grand in the living room. I think our exchange is simply another example of how different our listening priorities are. Why some folks prefer box speakers vs horns or planars. Tube vs SS. And so on. I guess I also differ greatly on a comment found in your profile: "I almost never listen in stereo anymore." I simply cannot imagine limiting my musical tastes so profoundly. I presume you refer to true MC recordings and not "artificially processed" results like Bigguy. edits: math problem and lack of highlighting! |
RE: Cool!, posted on April 14, 2017 at 12:35:04 | |
Posts: 1120
Location: Philadelphia Joined: September 7, 2008 |
Happy listening! |