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A Music Plea to Sony

12.18.0.2

Posted on November 22, 2000 at 09:35:00
TOM


 
Sony has come up with a great product and has the catelogue to back it up. However, please remember that there are many of us forty somethings out there who appreciate music other than the pop standards and classical.

I for one have enough of the big hit pop title that Sony has already sold me in their previous audiophile incarnations (ie. 1/2 Speed and Gold Mastersound) that I don't need or want it again in SACD. Stop the Michael Jackson Thillers, Boston and Toto titles. I'll bet than when they do Simon and Garfunkel it'll be Bridge Over Trouble Water again, the five copies I already own (360,Quad,1/2 Speeds but MFSL & CBS, Gold Disk) will last me enough for this lifetime.

So here's my wish list

Mountain - Climbing
Dylan - Highway 61, New Morning and John Westley Harding
Donovan - Barrabbajal
Byrds - 5D, Younger than Yesterday
Mahavishu Orchestra - Birds of Fire, Nothingness and Eternity
Miles - In a Silent Way
Ellington - Indigoes (His best sounding and sadly neglected album)
Jeff Beck - Beckola and Truth
ELO - Eldorado
Weather Report - 1st album, Mysterious Traveler
Clash - 1st album (British version)
Black Crowes - Southern Harmony Companion
Taj Mahal - A Giant Step, The Real Thing
The Flock - The Flock
Janis Joplin - Kosmic Blues (a sadly overlooked album)
Kris Krisofferson
Johnny Cash - American:Solitary Man
Spirt - 12 Dreams, Clear
Ten Years After - A Space in Time
Springsteen - The Wild, The Innocent and The E Street Shuffle
Mingus - Dynasty
Simon and Garfunkel - Parsley, Sage and Tymne

Sorry for any misspellings but I just came back from searching for disks for my new 777 and needed to get it off my chest.

 

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prediction, posted on November 22, 2000 at 10:05:09
Jazz Inmate


 
By this time next year, some of those titles will be on SACD and the rest may not be far behind. I agree with you wholeheartedly about Indigoes, 12 dreams, Kosmic Blues, Dynasty, Dylan, and many others. In a Silent Way is available on JSACD. If you go to the legacy web page, there is a field you can fill out for comments/suggestions. I have requested many on my Columbia/Sony SACD wishlist and encourage others to do the same. It can't hurt.

 

Re: A Music Plea to Sony, posted on November 22, 2000 at 10:28:36
I think that *all of us* who love DSD/SACD have constructed VERY LONG LISTS of what we'd love to hear!

"Betcha' mine's bigger 'n yourz!"

"Nuh-uh!"

"Uh-huh!"

;-)

I've emailed mine to my contacts at Sony.

Offer: If any of youse guyz wants to compile a master list from AA and email it to me, I'll send it to some of the folks that I know there.

FWIW...but it can't hurt!

david

 

Re: A Music Plea to Sony, posted on November 22, 2000 at 11:01:34
JCS


 
Have you gotten any kind of inclination from them that they care about your list?


 

Re: A Music Plea to Sony...Steve Hoffman, care to comment?, posted on November 22, 2000 at 14:01:18
No, but it made *me* feel better!

;-)

Actually, A&R sourcing is a helluva complex critter...somewhat reminiscent of ballot counting in Florida and Middle East "negotiations." It isn't as easy as it looks...believe me! Master tapes of 'phile phaves aren't just sitting around waiting for reissue. Tapes are old, damaged, destroyed (yes, really!), tied up in litigation, lost in the archives (yes, really!), withdrawn from distribution, misidentified ("*Sure* this is the 'original master'! Can'tcha tell?!"), and so on.

Not to mention the fact that sometimes the A&R folks are less than knowledgeable, inspired, or motivated to "do the right thing!"

In other words, this ain't tiddley winks.

Steve Hoffman could tell you LOTS more about what's involved.

Steve, you there? Care to comment?

david

 

Glad you posted this, David..., posted on November 22, 2000 at 15:09:47
Jim Treanor


 
the question of whether the tapes exist, are in issuable condition, or can even be located certainly keeps the whole subject of issue/reissue in perspective. (I just hope Sony knows where the Columbia Ormandy Tchaikovsky's are...:))

--Jim

 

Re: Glad you posted this, David..., posted on November 22, 2000 at 17:02:36
Hi Y'all, Some comments for the Hi-Rez crew from moi:


Believe it or not, there are some people at Sony Music who care about quality SACD releases. But let's remember, it's a really big company. The SACD department is a small one. It's true if we call Sony and the receptionist on the other end doesn't know what an SACD is or how to order one, it can be a pisser, but it's not the end of the world as we know it. I know some of you who call DCC Compact Classics and don't have your questions fully answered get ticked as well. Record companies have always been uneasy about dealing with the general public on a one to one basis. Try calling up Universal Studios sometime and tell them you liked The Grinch. The operator will say "thanks" and hang up on you. Such is life.

Regarding licensing, it's never easy. Sony is actually easier to deal with than some other companies. It's just a question of politics and money, like everywhere else. DCC has three SACD titles cleared by Sony at the moment with more on the way. Trying to find the right tapes is always an adventure, and if you want to read some of 'em, visit the DCC Forum at www.dcccompactclassics.com for thrills and chills! David R. is better able on this site to express the troubles, pitfalls and eventual joy, in licensing and releasing great product. I, on the other hand, have to live it 24/7 so it is sometimes harder for me to see a light at the end of this tunnel. I think (and hope) that the major record companies of the World (and movie studios as well), have discovered that it is wise to safeguard their back catalog as best as they can. Nonetheless, there could be fifty master mix reels for every new compact disc on a major label. If 20 new discs are released a month at, let's say, Sony Music, wow, does that add up fast. They just can't save everything. Piles of tapes would be forced into the ocean! That being said, there is a lot of good stuff waiting to be mined. I'm never been a very happy red tape cutter. (Hey, I made a pun, sort of.) I just want the right stuff to remaster, and I want it now. So, to all of you, what I can say is, "We're working on it!"

While I'm thinking about it, there are some artists that has taken matters of tape preservation into their own hands. I'm speaking primarily of The Doors. Danny S. and The Doors have gone all out, with a state of the art vault that rivals Ft. Knox. They have reclaimed every single Doors' tape, audio and video, from the Whole Wide World (including Elektra) and they are now stored, safe from harm, forever. Wonderful for me, 'cause I can find everything I need for the DCC Doors' remasterings under one (very cold) roof. So what if there are armed guards :). Not many other bands out there with this kind of clout though, but it's a start.

I'm going back to work now. Thanks for letting me ramble....

 

Oops, forgot something..., posted on November 22, 2000 at 17:09:10
This should make it easier for you to visit the DCC Forum. You are always welcome!

http://www.dcccompactclassics.com/DiscussionGroups/index.html

 

Re: Oops, forgot something..., posted on November 22, 2000 at 17:56:41
JCS


 
These are the kind of posts that make this site a breath of fresh air!

 

I have this vision . . ., posted on November 24, 2000 at 15:51:41
. . . of the last scene from Raider of the Lost Ark, when that guy is wheeling the boxed Ark into this vast, undifferentiated warehouse. I know that's where "If I could only remembr my name" and "Life in the foodchain" reside . . . sigh.

Rick Gardner

 

Re: I have this vision . . ., posted on November 24, 2000 at 20:29:31
Heh heh!

That's *really* funny Rick...and true enough to hurt!

What a great scene that was....

david

 

Re: I have this vision . . ., posted on November 24, 2000 at 21:25:10
Jazz Inmate


 
It *would* be funny if it didn't ring so true. And Atlantic's warehouse burned down a long time ago. I believe most of the tapes destroyed in that fire were not the masters, but some probably were. sigh.

 

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