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The Quest For Absolute Sound REVISED...

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Posted on July 22, 2021 at 08:55:41
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RE: The Quest For Absolute Sound REVISED..., posted on July 22, 2021 at 09:22:24
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The enjoyment of music, posted on July 22, 2021 at 11:18:16
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Nice video I guess - unfortunately it all seemed to make perfect sense to me. Surely I could have made it to this point without understanding much of it at all - the fact that I do understand is a tribute to how audio equipment is marketed to the public.

I was a music lover long before seriously considering audio equipment as an important consideration in the enjoyment of music. I had 100s of albums and established rituals surrounding the experiences of listening to music and my enjoyment of it.

In a nutshell when I became more serious about audio the revelation was acceptance of the philosophical stuff, ie. taking any side, proved an affront to my enjoyment of my records and music than an enhancement of it. Of course if I would have been willing to give up my already established collection of music, and the rituals surrounding my enjoyment of them, and willingly created new ways to enjoy records of different music my results could have been much different. But like I said my habit, listening to the stereo, was formed decades before my exposure to good audio equipment.

For me the important factors are selecting components that work well together, work well in the room it's being used and work best with all recordings of interest were barely even addressed in the about video. Of course room treatments can bring improvements and might be essential if a systems performance is unacceptable due to the room. IME - moving the system into a new room might require room treatments or a new system to recreate the results achieved in the old room. So YES environment is important.

The best audio advice ever was from the audio critic - demo gear with YOUR favorite music. My corollary is what difference does it make to me how awesome a system sounds with someone else's records/music when it makes music I enjoy sound bad? How easy is that?

Remember most industry magazines/resources have a vested interested in the industry. At one time there was more emphasis on creating audiophiles that would purchase upmarket than one of guiding audiophiles to build musically satisfying systems for reasonable money. That said they are serving all audiophiles so it's important for everyone to understand where they personally fit in. Which seems contrary to the purpose of the audio industry described in the video.


 

Does he really listen to speakers that close together? -nt, posted on July 22, 2021 at 11:38:49
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Nearfield..., posted on July 22, 2021 at 12:04:15
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RE: The Quest For Absolute Sound REVISED..., posted on July 22, 2021 at 16:26:17
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Succinct and to the point. I mostly agree throughout but felt kind of miffed when he took ownership of high fidelity in the last minute or so.

 

He could make sex a total chore. nt, posted on July 22, 2021 at 17:52:55
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RE: The Quest For Absolute Sound REVISED..., posted on July 22, 2021 at 19:01:06
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whatever. recreating a past musical event can only ever be illusion,.

once you accept that, it is just about how far one wants to chase the selected illusion.

Since hearing is a process of the mind, and the mind has no self awareness , the perception of wine tasterings when the labels have been switched comes to mind.

I would rather play the game than spectate, so would rather spend money on musical education or instruments than having such an investment in only playback.

Of course, I enjoy the quality of fine things. But as Steve miller wrote in one of his songs, I can make my music on a ten cent comb.

I think an adult enjoyment can be very profound and meaningful. But I question if even the finest Hi fi can exceed the joy a kid might find playing a song about a duck on a kids record player.

I would hope a person with that type of investment in listening to others , would have gained some understanding about the music that is his own.

 

"Straight Wire With Gain..... ", posted on July 23, 2021 at 23:28:21
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If you get ten people to construct audio systems that they believe comes close to a "straight wire with gain," I think you'd end up with ten different sounding systems.... And nobody would be able to determine which system actually achieves the ideal the best...... Aside from using comprehensive measurements as the judge. (But even there, nobody would agree on which measurements to use or which ones have greater importance/relevance.)

I do believe a lot of us tend to "overcomplicate" the approach to audio..... This was my impression of the video.... This "overcomplication" is often at the root of "gear acquisition syndrome," as stated in the video.

I think the simple approach to this is to capture the essence of live music, to as great of a degree as possible..... And make subtle adjustments to better capture these sonic characteristics. (This is why I believe the "live reference" and ear training are paramount.... It cuts down the "guesswork" in decisions to better direct a system's sonic presentation toward the desired sonic objectives.)

 

+1, posted on July 24, 2021 at 03:09:39
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