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Posted on November 1, 2020 at 13:40:41

Bill Way
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Finally got the Massive Passive installed. Check back in a few months (years?) when I know how to get the most out of it. The first hour of playing with it is *very* encouraging. I wanted to make these current production Tannoys sound more like their vintage stuff, with a little fuller upper bass and the highs tamed by a couple dB. I could have just bought vintage Tannoy, but I've got these and like 'em. What they do well they do *very* well. Yes, the wires will get hidden.

WW
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SAE 2800 Parametric EQ.

Cougar

09:11:32 11/05/20

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Story

03:53:08 11/06/20

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SAE 2800 Parametric EQ.

Cougar

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Story

03:53:08 11/06/20

Loki

Cougar

07:47:20 11/06/20

Bet it sounds wonderful

M3 lover

08:28:49 11/03/20

Technics SH-9010

Byrd69

06:37:47 11/03/20

Nice looking setup.

srdavis2000

13:04:05 11/02/20

One question

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Bill Way

06:36:42 11/02/20

So, it's...

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Story

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RE: One EQ to rule them all, posted on November 1, 2020 at 13:49:15
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46302 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	Nice, but I'm really diggin the Manleys with your Tannoys!

RE: One EQ to rule them all, posted on November 1, 2020 at 13:59:00
Todd A.	Nice system. Very nice indeed.

RE: One EQ to rule them all, posted on November 1, 2020 at 14:02:38
rivervalley817	looks like it was plucked from an airline cockpit how thick is the manual for that bad boy? what wires? with regards,

RE: One EQ to rule them all, posted on November 1, 2020 at 14:36:04
Bill Way Audiophile Posts: 1884 Location: Toms River NJ Joined: May 28, 2012 Contributor Since: December 14, 2012	The manual, which is on their site, is only 30-some pages, but they're pretty dense. There is also lots of shared expertise over on Gearslutz. WW "Put on your high heeled sneakers. Baby, we''re goin'' out tonight.

RE: One EQ to rule them all, posted on November 1, 2020 at 14:57:48
rivervalley817	if they remake Forbidden Planet [and you know they will] you could loan it for the sets ... well, rent it out I mean regards,

RE: One EQ to rule them all, posted on November 2, 2020 at 05:11:19

tketcham
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Hi, Bill,

Wow, just wow. That's a beast of an "equalizer" and after reading about it on the Manley website my Schiit Loki Mini seems more like a Loki Micro. :-)

One thing I found interesting is that Manley uses four bands of equalization as does the Loki Mini. Obvious difference is that each of the bands in the Massive can be configured to a specific segment and steepness curve. Mind boggling customization.

Have a blast with that Massive Passive. It looks like you could easily spend years experimenting with settings.

Tom

RE: One EQ to rule them all, posted on November 2, 2020 at 05:28:28

Story
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this was not meant for home audio but for recording studios & mastering facilities, but we are all jealous as it's really nice for its surgical precision and transparency. There are other such EQ's but this one is made to Manley standards. Cello had one and a few others as well.

I've found that most recordings, even some classical, need a bit of EQ that was deficient from the mastering house. But most importantly it's a great tool for the playback system in the home setup. Nothing and nobody is perfect except the live performance soundwise but we all know that.

I'm just sayin'

One question, posted on November 2, 2020 at 06:07:48
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37666 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	Why is it named "Massive Passive" when it has active circuitry using six tubes?

RE: One question, posted on November 2, 2020 at 06:36:42
Bill Way Audiophile Posts: 1884 Location: Toms River NJ Joined: May 28, 2012 Contributor Since: December 14, 2012	The EQ circuitry is passive. The available amplification, which uses tubes, is there to deliver the input level at the outputs regardless of how much EQ cutting is applied. And it is pretty massive at 21 pounds. EveAnna says it got the nickname "Massivo" as they lugged it around the factory during its development. WW "Put on your high heeled sneakers. Baby, we''re goin'' out tonight.

So, it's..., posted on November 2, 2020 at 11:59:19
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37666 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	passive-active. :)

Nice looking setup. , posted on November 2, 2020 at 13:04:05
srdavis2000 Audiophile Posts: 10707 Location: Deep South Joined: January 11, 2003 Contributor Since: December 16, 2004	Love the look of the Tanoys

Technics SH-9010, posted on November 3, 2020 at 06:37:47

Byrd69
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Technics by Panasonic SH-9010.

This unit did a nice job for me back in the 70s when I was applying EQ to my Dead and Pink Floyd concert tapes. I don't think there were many parametric EQs back then.

I hooked it up a few weeks ago and still works fine. I just might slip it into a system for the hell of it.

Your interest may vary but the results will be same. (Byrd 2020)

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Bet it sounds wonderful, posted on November 3, 2020 at 08:28:49
M3 lover Audiophile Posts: 6604 Location: SW Mich Joined: May 29, 2005 Contributor Since: July 4, 2007	Hi Bill, I believe EveAnna still uses Tannoys in her personal system. A good friend has the big Tannoys in his system and that is one of the most enjoyable I've ever heard. "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made." Groucho

SAE 2800 Parametric EQ., posted on November 5, 2020 at 09:11:32

Cougar
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these are very nice EQ's and its my main EQ in my system. I do have the Schiit LOKI which is a nice little parametric as well, Would be nice if Schiit made one with more bands to it.

RE: SAE 2800 Parametric EQ., posted on November 6, 2020 at 03:53:08
Story Audiophile Posts: 10457 Location: NJ Joined: December 11, 2000	please take note that the Loki is NOT a parametric EQ. Each band is centered and the bandwidth changes from wide to narrow as each control is advanced or cut. The SAE is old school but very useful for some purposes.

Loki, posted on November 6, 2020 at 07:47:20

Cougar
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Its not a normal EQ as per say Graphic. There was a forum that showed it's act like a parametric.

The guy has measurements that show how the bands are are actually working.

I will try to find the link for the review and post it back here.

I found this video on the Steve Hoffman forum. This one guy explains about how wide the Q is on the 20hz control and how it affects the 100hz as well.

Loki

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One EQ to rule them all

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