General Asylum

General audio topics that don't fit into specific categories.

Return to General Asylum


Message Sort: Post Order or Asylum Reverse Threaded

SPL Calcualtor & SPL Meter - Need some tech advice.

74.96.67.17

Posted on May 10, 2007 at 12:53:39
Steven


 
Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out if the the 85 watt power amp I have can efficiently drive my 90db sensitiviy speakers.

using the SPL calculator at http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

as well as an SPL meter.

The calculator shows that the my amp and speakers will go to 103.5db at my 11 foot listening position. Well, my SPL meter shows I'm listening to about 94db at at pinfull levels.

My question is this... Given the results from the SPL calculator website, does this mean as long as I stay below listening levels of 103.5db I cannot clip the amp and speakers? Roughly speaking of course, I do realize all these are estimates and don't take everything into account.

 

Hide full thread outline!
    ...
peak vs RMS, posted on May 11, 2007 at 07:47:39
gymwear5@hotmail.com
Manufacturer

Posts: 3475
Joined: April 10, 2002
94dB on a RMS value Sound Meter (Fast or Slow) is very loud! Peak levels with music will be 13+ dB or greater higher depending on the source - if there is no clipping.

Here's how I figure it out. Start with The power amp and calculate its output level in dBW. Your 85W RMS Amplifier can probably go to 125Watts Peak for short periods... 1.7dB dynamic capability, but lets use 100 Watts as a nice round number - 100Watts = 20dBWatt.

So now since your speaker sensitivity is 90dB for one Watt (usually at 1 meter) two Speakers are 93dB - perhaps a bit higher say 4.5 dB because of the correlation between the loudspeakers signals. Depending on your room acoustics the level will drop about 3dB for doubling of distance. At 11ft that drops the output down to 90dB for 1 watt into TWO speakers again.

Using PEAK values you get 90dB for 1 Watt, 100 dB for 10 Watts, and 110dB for 100 Peak Watts - add 4.5 dB for the second speaker and their 103.5 goes up to 108dB - not to far off. Your Sound meter is likely +/- 3 or 4dB in accuracy.

Looks like your are doing just fine


 

Thanks for the input....BUT........, posted on May 11, 2007 at 08:29:26
Steven


 
I got the 94 reading (actually 95db) when the SPL meter's MAX button was pressed. I got 95db MAX reading from the SPL meter. The average seemed to be running in about the 88db range. This was very, very loud for me. I never go this high, it was crazy.

Given, the numbers, you don't think I clipped, do you? Because as I say it was unenjoyably loud, although I heard no ditrotrion but do you think I clipped a little to the point where I didn't hear it yet?

Thanks again,
Steve

 

Re: Thanks for the input....BUT........, posted on May 11, 2007 at 13:21:14
David Aiken
Audiophile

Posts: 5858
Location: Brisbane
Joined: September 25, 1999
You didn't say what meter you were using so it's hard to say how accurate it was. Assuming the RS meter, then Gymwear's +/- 3 or 4 dB in accuracy is probably correct.

So, you find average levels of 88 dB "very, very loud", do you? You're not alone. My peak levels rarely exceed 85 dB using a RS meter, with average levels around 10 dB lower than that. Average levels of 88 dB are quite loud—I won't say "very" because someone is sure to disagree with the use of that word, but we are talking loud, especially if you're in a small to medium sized room. Peak levels will be around 10 dB or so louder and that's getting very loud by any definition.

I doubt you clipped and if you're not hearing distortion and you don't like it that loud, then your amp has no problems with your speakers and room at the volumes you like.

Relax. Enjoy. Put the volume control back where you like it and spin some music.

David Aiken

 

Page processed in 0.020 seconds.