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Products overlooked by TAS or Stereophile?

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Posted on May 17, 2004 at 09:42:02
hexenboden
Audiophile

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 Pls. list the products you would like TAS or Stereophile to review.

I for one would like to see:

- Dali speakers reviewed and measured in Stereophile
- same for nearfield Acoustic Pipedreams and other line sources
- a Stereophile review with measurements of Sound Lab speakers
- more coverage and measurements of Muse products
- a review with measurements of Edge amps
- a comprehensive review of Tact digital amps, including jitter measurements
- more coverage of (i) digital products, (ii) high powered amps especially tubed (iii) SET amps

 

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Write the manufacturuer's. Ask them to send their components.., posted on May 17, 2004 at 11:04:38
agattu
 to the magazines for review. Then they'll have a decent chance of getting reviewed. There are also manufacturers reluctant to have their products reviewed.

 

Re: Products overlooked by TAS or Stereophile?, posted on May 17, 2004 at 15:14:15
John Atkinson
Reviewer

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Location: New York
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 > I for one would like to see:
>- Dali speakers reviewed and measured in Stereophile

Recently reviewed by John Marks. No plans to publish measurements.

>- same for nearfield Acoustic Pipedreams and other line sources
>- a Stereophile review with measurements of Sound Lab speakers

No plans. We gave Soundlab major coverage 15 years ago. Not sure if
more is required. And Pipedreams is virtually a bespoke product,
meaning a review will not be very transportable.

>- more coverage and measurements of Muse products

Good idea, Kevin Halverson is one of the best audio engineers around.

>- a review with measurements of Edge amps

A full review of the Edge NL-12 appears in our July issue.

>- a comprehensive review of Tact digital amps, including jitter
>measurements

Eventually.

>- more coverage of (i) digital products

More coverage is on the way.

>(ii) high powered amps especially tubed (iii) SET amps

Mikey Fremer reviews the stupid expensive Wavac SH-833 in July.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile


 

JA, loved those short, concise and ..., posted on May 17, 2004 at 17:30:46
JMCIII
Reviewer

Posts: 1519
Location: Vermont
Joined: April 3, 2000
 ...more importantly, to the point answers.


John Crossett

 

How about reviewing the Klipschorn with art's SETs, JA? (nt), posted on May 17, 2004 at 17:52:25
abajaj11


 
nt

 

Thank you for your response, but..., posted on May 18, 2004 at 06:34:04
hexenboden
Audiophile

Posts: 1498
Joined: October 13, 2000
 The measurements section is in my opinion the single most valuable item in Stereophile. No one else has that depth of coverage. Reviews are useful but ultimately highly subjective. In some cases I feel they can be emotionally biased, even in Stereophile.

While John Marks is one of the best reviewers around it would be great to see Dali's design philosophy measured in the lab.

I understand Pipedreams and Sound Labs are not mainstream products but they are design-wise two state of the art approaches. Too bad they cannot be covered.

I'm happy that you are covering the other products and look forward to reading about them. I think the magazine's level is as high as it has ever been, now the key is to make the right choices and keep the right balance in terms of what to review.

 

Measurements in stereophile, posted on May 18, 2004 at 20:16:08
abajaj11


 
I frankly subscribe to stereophile becuase it's fun to read about the components. I place absolutely NO credence on the reviews, nor on the measurements.
Why not on the measurements? In the range they are measuring in, a much worse sounding piece of audio equipment can sound MUCH better subjectively. Note I said: IN THE RANGE.....
So if an amp has distortion of say .0001% versus another that hasdistortion of, say, 1%, then is one ten thousand times better? IF it;s a SET versus a sand amp...he he
-akhilesh

 

Re: Measurements in stereophile, posted on May 19, 2004 at 14:26:52
hexenboden
Audiophile

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Joined: October 13, 2000
 "I place absolutely NO credence on the reviews, nor on the measurements.
Why not on the measurements? In the range they are measuring in, a much worse sounding piece of audio equipment can sound MUCH better subjectively. "

Certain measurements can tell you a lot about how a product is enginnered, which to me is useful as ONE indicator of performance. I never said measurements are the panacea. But they are more useful than most overly subjective reviews.

The issue of scale that you mention is IMHO not that relevant. Measurements have gotten fairly accurate. It seems the problem is more one of interaction between different qualities, than scale. In other words, frequency response, step response, distortion, are all different slices of the same pie. one view does not tell you that much --even a number of static views misses the dynamic nature of sound.

 

Wally Malewicz's new speakers., posted on May 29, 2004 at 12:40:40
subcoolman
 Heard alot of good things about them hereabouts through the grapevine....

Jim
audio apprentice.

 

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