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Posted on May 6, 2017 at 16:53:23
Mossback
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 Harbeth speakers with supplied jumpers. I'm curious, anyone have any personal experience replacing the stock plates with a wire jumper set?
Not interested in bi wiring my speakers.

 

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RE: Speaker Jumpers?, posted on May 6, 2017 at 18:29:39
Duster
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 What model Harbeth? What type of connector (or none) are your current speaker cables terminated with?

 

RE: Speaker Jumpers?, posted on May 7, 2017 at 06:26:05
Jack G
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 I have no experience with Harbeth, but I've had several pair of speakers that came with those jumper plates. Switching over to cable jumpers made a considerable improvement. Try it, its not that expensive.
Jack

 

RE: Speaker Jumpers?, posted on May 8, 2017 at 21:00:30
Awe-d-o-file
Dealer

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Location: 50 miles west of DC
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 sorry to tell you my Harbeths benefited more from bi-wire than the three jumpers I tried.




ET

"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

 

RE: Speaker Jumpers?, posted on May 9, 2017 at 17:45:32
Duster
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 Good call, Awe-d-o-file. While I have no experience of a Harbeth loudspeaker, but I bet their designs are best served by the use of bi-wire cables vs. jumpers. A jumper no matter how good is an adapter, with all the caveats of an adapter. IMO, it's almost a disservice to offer bi-wire capable binding posts with brass straps as default. It's a very weak link in the signal chain, and unacceptable to many audiophiles after discovering the benefit of bi-wiring.

 

Bi-wire, posted on May 9, 2017 at 19:21:40
Mossback
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 My gosh going bi-wire would be a budget killer. I got a good deal on Auditorium 23 speaker wires it's not something I would look forward to replacing bi-wire.
I do respect your input am willing to keep an open mind it's the cost, ouch!

 

Harbeth SHL 5+ , posted on May 9, 2017 at 19:31:21
Mossback
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Location: Washington, the State
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 Duster, I'm unsure of the speakers they look to be very high quality connectors with gold color plate connectors, the cables are beryllium copper bananas and they fit very tight darn nice sounding (or no sounding?) cables.

 

Thanks Jack...., posted on May 9, 2017 at 19:34:21
Mossback
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Posts: 1871
Location: Washington, the State
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 I'm reading bi-wire seems most liked but am not willing to spend for new bi-wire cables. I think I'll see If I can try some wire jumpers I know some companies allow returns.

 

RE: Bi-wire, posted on May 9, 2017 at 19:38:58
Duster
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Location: Pacific Northwest
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 Finding another run of Auditorium 23 speaker cables, or buying a new set of bi-wire cables is a typical upgrade path, nothing too drastic.

 

RE: Thanks Jack...., posted on May 10, 2017 at 07:49:58
Jack G
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 They don't have to be super-duper high end, Just about anything is better than those brass plates many speakers use.
Jack

 

RE: Thanks Jack...., posted on May 10, 2017 at 18:52:51
DeeCee
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 I initially replaced my adapters with cable jumpers which made an improvement and later got a pair of *used* bi-wire cables for an excellent price.

Used cables are your friends: inexpensive, broken-in, etc.

Just be sure it's from an honest source.

Happy Listening!
DeeCee

 

RE: Thanks Jack...., posted on May 10, 2017 at 21:07:36
Tidycat1
 Here are three suggestions for jumpers:
Mapleshade ribbons-very quick and articulate
Clear Day double-shotgun very good and cheap ($35/pr)
Furutech 16ga wire available in red/black
Almost any wire is better than the brass plates.

 

Auditorium 23, posted on May 14, 2017 at 12:08:28
mitch2
Audiophile

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Location: Great Lakes
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 FYI - 3M length of Auditorium 23 speaker cables with bananas on US Audio Mart now.

If you want a real tonal treat, try double runs of NOS Western Electric 10ga wire or Duelund 12ga stranded tinned copper new stock. Neither is too expensive.

 

RE: Auditorium 23, posted on May 17, 2017 at 13:37:27
ahendler
Audiophile

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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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 Have used Auditorium 23 in the past. Very nice. I now use Western Electric and Dueland. Great stuff. I use Western Electric 16 gauge. It is becoming hard to find. The Dueland is readily available
Alan

 

RE: Auditorium 23, posted on May 19, 2017 at 02:59:22
SETdude
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 What Alan said. Jeff Day's blog post about the WE wire and has pics of a simple way to do the jumpers.

 

RE: Speaker Jumpers?, posted on July 12, 2017 at 14:06:05
cawson@onetel.com
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 Sorry but I'd disagree - to a point.

If you want to spend £1000 on your speaker cables, I'd suggest that single cables costing £1000 should sound better than bi-wiring with 2 x £500 cables.

For bi-wire to offer any real benefit, you'd have to pick one cable that's very good for bass and another good cable for treble. Most bi-wire offerings are the same cable - just double the number.

 

RE: Thanks Jack...., posted on July 18, 2017 at 19:43:10
Tweaker456
 I'm not quite sure what kind of audiophile jumper you are talking about but I kinda agree with Jack. My suggestion would be to use a 12 or 10 awg solid magnet wire or if you don't want to do that than you could get some high purity audio grade OCC insulated solid wire and maybe use like 2 16 awg runs per rail. T456

 

RE: Speaker Jumpers?, posted on July 19, 2017 at 05:41:41
The Dill
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 When I had speakers that had dual binding posts I used Zu Ibis. They sounded very good.

 

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