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Shortlist of cheap but reliable Class D amps?

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Posted on September 23, 2020 at 16:28:39
marc g.
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I was given a pair Definitive Technology Pro Monitor 800 speakers - little satellites with 4.5" woofer and passive radiator and a tweeter. They are 8 ohms and 87db sensitive. With no other amp in my house except my big AtmaSphere MA-1 tubed monos, I hooked them up to see if they worked and how they sounded. They work and sound fine. Actually, they image very nicely due to their narrow front baffle, but replace my big ole JBL's they won't. Being about 10db less sensitive than my JBL's, they sure can suck up some power - I really had to turn it up to get some decent volume levels.

What cheap but reliable Class D amps might I consider to power them with for a second system? I've seen many a comment on the super cheap (sub $100) amps like Lepai and the like arriving DOA or crapping out after a few months. I'm not looking for or expecting fantastic sound quality, just something that works and should continue to do so. Built in Bluetooth would be nice since this would be for a secondary system for which I have no source for save for a TV or internet. I have a standalone Bluetooth receiver that I could used if need be. I do like the size and BT feature of the Dayton amp I inked to below (sadly no longer available), but no idea of the quality of this brand but realize it is one that Parts Express has been selling for quite a while.

A Class A/B amp would be fine too, but I'm really aiming for cheap, little heat, and a small footprint. TIA.

voolston - audiophile by day, music lover by night!

 

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RE: Shortlist of cheap but reliable Class D amps?, posted on September 23, 2020 at 17:26:33
Tre'
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"Output power: 60 watts RMS x 2 @ 4 ohms Total harmonic distortion (THD): <0.1% @ 1W, <10% @ 60W"

Not really a 60 watt per channel amp. A real 60 watts amp will do 60 watts at less than 1% THD. That's federal law.

Tre'
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RE: Shortlist of cheap but reliable Class D amps?, posted on September 24, 2020 at 08:56:15
Mick Wolfe
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I would check out one of the various Crown offerings. Going to have to spend a bit more, but you'll have a reliable product with ample power.

 

You get what you pay for, posted on September 24, 2020 at 10:30:16
Mike K
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Check out PS Audio's class D offerings. Well engineered and made, and
reliable. And, it's not Chinese.

Lack of skill dictates economy of style. - Joey Ramone

 

RE: Rega Io??, posted on September 24, 2020 at 11:06:32
Mahlernut
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I got tired of cheap class D amps failing on me, so I went a different direction: the new small Io Integrated amp by Rega. I am very pleased with it.


Thom T.
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Music is life, and life is music.

 

Budget?, posted on September 24, 2020 at 11:34:10
mlsstl
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If you are looking for a $100 amp, your only choices are going to be one of the cheapo Chinese class D amp or something quite used.

OTOH, I bought a VTV Hypex NC252MP for $550 a few weeks ago and have been very impressed with it. It has replaced my Bel Canto C5i. VTV also has a lower power version, the NC122MP that is $60 less. And they have higher power versions available as well -- Hypex NCore, Purifi and Pascal -- for more money, of course.

 

$98.80, posted on September 24, 2020 at 12:44:28
longtimequadowner
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I just got back from a summer vacation in a 19x13 room using a Dayton DTA-120 from when they were Class-T (a variation on Class D that is no longer produced) with my beloved Onkyo SKF-4800 speakers. This room - and I emphasize this particular room - with that little amp and the ultra-cheap Onkyo's were the best disappearing act I've ever had - or heard. Tiny sounds way way way deep in the soundstage could be heard like you were wearing headphones - with all the ambience that surrounds them right in place. The leading edge was so clear - and could stop as quickly if that makes sense. The separation of even the tiniest of sounds - even when in a whirlwind of music - had to be heard to be believed. Every song was a riveting experience. Never heard anything like it - it was the lotto winner of synergies in my 40+ years of audiophile-ing. Had the Daytons over a decade before that happened - sure picked the right vacation spot!

As always - get back home to a very similarly sized and treated room - same system exactly - measured right to how I had them set up while on vacation - sounds nothing like it. I can hear that the sound is perhaps "in there" but you have to work to hear it a bit - to reconstruct what I know it could be. It's impressive and holographic - but within the soundstange things get overly warm and muddied. Sometimes wonder if audiophiles realize just how much even similar sized/treated rooms can be so different - makes recommending gear on audio forums almost useless. I'm on day 2 now of being home and am doubting I'll be able to re-create it.

The current DTA-120BT2 might be worth a try for the fun of it - but I have to wonder just how much the "Class T" design of mine plays a role. Also don't know how it would deal with high-res music, as I listen mostly to streaming - CD at "best". It also has bluetooth here

 

RE: $98.80, posted on September 24, 2020 at 13:13:13
'class T' chips are the same tech, they're actually 'class D' as well

the Tripath company [which folded] trademarked 'class T' after it was coined on [I believe] the TNT Audio site when they reviewed their little toy silver & black amp

the chip modules used in them were the same as those used in scads of el` cheapo computer 'sub-woofers' ...

I'm pretty sure that I got the history right

be well,

 

I have one of THESE, posted on September 24, 2020 at 16:09:39
Brian H P
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Actually an earlier version, w/o bluetooth. Has two selectable line level RCA inputs, real binding posts (not pinchpenny spring terminals) for speakers, 80WPC into 4 Ohms (60 into 8), runs cool, sounds not-terrible with average sensitivity speakers, no problems after two years in the second system. Price is very reasonable, quality better than most of the Lepai crap.

 

RE: Shortlist of cheap but reliable Class D amps?, posted on September 24, 2020 at 16:53:14
pictureguy
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In KIT form? The AmpCampAmp is 330$ and a VERY complete kit. A pair can double the power and run from a balanced connection.

I use the Dayton DTA-1 in the garage. This is Ultra-Cheap at about 35$ but provides excellent garage sound. I Do wish, however, for more sensitive speakers......The cast-offs I'm using sound fine for what they are but would be better with more power.
Too much is never enough

 

See Audio Science Review's test of the ACA ..., posted on September 24, 2020 at 17:32:08
Feanor
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See the link below ...



Dmitri Shostakovich

 

I endorse the VTV Hypex NC252MP, posted on September 24, 2020 at 17:35:02
Feanor
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I'm quite enjoying mine.



Dmitri Shostakovich

 

RE: See Audio Science Review's test of the ACA ..., posted on September 24, 2020 at 18:49:16
pictureguy
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Other than the fact that the speakers were grossly inappropriate for this amp, I have no complaints.

Distoriton is way too high as you exceed the lowest powers.

I'd like the result wiht something like 95db sensitive speakers or even higher......
Too much is never enough

 

RE: Shortlist of cheap but reliable Class D amps?, posted on September 25, 2020 at 05:47:58
fstein
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Wife using earlier version of Dayton for at least 5 years sans problems

 

+1 (nt), posted on September 25, 2020 at 09:05:59
Vinyl Valet
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nt
Open up your mind, in pours the trash. - Meat Puppets, 1987

 

RE: Shortlist of cheap but reliable Class D amps?, posted on September 26, 2020 at 07:26:22
rodge827
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Not sure if your budget I had the Allo Volt+D amp and it sounded very good. I replaced it with a much more expensive Digital Amplifier Company amp.

 

Funny you mention that..., posted on September 26, 2020 at 09:48:21
marc g.
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I have been toying with the idea of getting a raspberry pi to play around with and it dawned on me that I could buy one of the various amp hats that are made for it and go that route. I'm familiar with the Allo brand from doing previous research. Thank you for the suggestion.



voolston - audiophile by day, music lover by night!

 

RE: Shortlist of cheap but reliable Class D amps?, posted on October 2, 2020 at 11:37:59
KanedaK
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Trends TA10.1
Smsl - various models
Topping - various models
Amptastic mini1

 

RE: Rega Io??, posted on October 9, 2020 at 13:51:27
merid
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The io is pretty incredible.

 

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