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In Reply to: RE: How Old Are You Lot Anyway? posted by punuk on January 23, 2008 at 20:42:30
Born and raised Irish Catholic, I was studying Virgil in LATIN in the 6th grade.....was taught latin form 4th to 8th grades.....amazing.....anyone out there teaching passages of the "Aeneid" to 11 year olds??? Sang thousand-year-old Gregorian chants at Mass...spoken in latin......NOT a trace of some fool with an acoustic guitar leading the crowd with some ever-so-popular contemporary tunes.
Old enough to remember going up to SF with my cousin to see what Bill Graham had to offer....$2.50 for thurs and Sunday....$3.50 on Fri and Sat.....I SAW EVERYBODY....with the exception of the "Fab Four".
I'm not kidding.......
EX) Albert King, John Mayhal and the Blues Breakers (Mick Taylor), and Jimi Hendrix Experience....I went both Friday and Saturday at Winterland auditorium.
Please...someone from SF bay Area speak up and say I speak the truth!!...Oh yeah....Truth...Jeff Beck Group with some skinny ass singer.
Went to college for just about free....more for the life style than for grades. My transcripts are a nightmare.
After 7 years of Owsley Acid, etc etc etc...........I came to realize the power and majesty of the Risen Christ.......but I have always looked at my faith as someone from the outside. I've tried to avoid that quasi-religeous cultural tar pit that is present in every society. Adolph and National socialists did wonders with them in the 1930s.
Discovered classical music via Glenn Gould. Picked up my first serious audio system in 1986, but I've been collecting records since alvin and the chipmonks!
I was born in the last days of a romantic age....corner general store with penny candy, plenty of un-supervised fun in the wilderness around my neighborhood, my dads Vacuum tube amps, I already mentioned Virgil.
I'm painfully aware, while I was living this wonderful childhood.....black men were still being killed for looking at a white women. Did the South really lose the war? The confederate flags are still blowing in the breeze.
I'm sorry.....I'm terminally West Coast....I think it's that big body of water just over the hills to the west.
As my hero Karl Barth once said to a Time Magazine reporter......Jesus loves me...this I know....because the Bible tells me so!
Hopefully I didn't insult too many out there....but your question was waaay too provocative.
Tom B.
Franz Marc
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TOM, Now that was a great post! I enjoyed everything you said, and feel like I have been a friend of yours for 40 years!! I really enjoy this forum, so many kindred spirits here, when at one time, I've felt like I am the only one still with this mindset, and enjoying vinyl mostly from the 1960 + 1970s...
Just wondering if you ever saw CROSBY, STILLS & NASH "back in the day"? I am a big fan, I crave their music almost daily. Also solo releases from Stephen Stills (Buffalo Springfield, Manassas, Solo) living legend Graham Nash (anything he's ever done I have. His "Songs For Beginners" 1971 release on Atlantic Records, is a 5 Star classic ***** and an LP I've enjoyed since then). David Crosby, THE BYRDS era and his solo work.
I am currently reading David Crosby's book, his 1988 autobiography titled "LONG TIME GONE". A great read, what a life, and what a time when CSN and sometimes "Y" were young (No pun intended) and touring, 1969 and the early 70s, 1977's break-out reunion CSN album with "Dark Star", "Just A Song Before I Go" "Cathedral" "Cold Rain" and the other great songs from that LP.
I also love the Crosby - Nash albums... Some of my favorite music, ever, and the soundtrack to my life...
Anyway, just wondering if you ever saw them LIVE? Let me know and catch you later. Keep the classic vinyl spinnin'!!
Ed in Sacramento, CA AKA "NoCal"
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......I am currently reading David Crosby's book, his 1988 autobiography titled "LONG TIME GONE"......
That's about the best Rock bio that I ever read!! I saw David in the original Byrds in one of those old AM radio productions....ya know....about a 100 acts playing 3 songs each. Not a very good way to really enjoy them.
I saw all four of them at Altamont.....again not a good way to really appreciate them.......although I really thought the Stones played fantastic....despite the Hells Angels murdering one of members of the audience.
I saw David with Graham as an acoustic duo. Really grand performance.....and I saw Stills with his own group.....again, a really great time indeed.
I almost forgot....I saw Roger with his new band with Clarence white....wow ...were they great!! I saw them on the same bill as the original Fleetwood Mac....God Bless Peter Green!!
I'm getting sleepy....goodnight.
Tom B.
RIGHT ON, Tom! Sounds good, and i thank you for your prompt reply.
Agree completely on the David Crosby book. What a page-turner, so well written with many legends of music (and David's friends) adding their recollections of various events from their memories. Man, at one time he was hopelessly addicted to hard drugs, and it's amazing he wasn't killed ala Morrison, Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Cass Elliott, Brian Jones (The Rolling Stones) and many others who died much too young.
Thankfully, David Crosby, finally wised-up, and got the help he so despertly needed, now being clean and sober for many years now. He could not have had a better friend, than Graham Nash. Nash truly is a great person.
One of my favorite David Crosby songs that he wrote can be found on the 1982 Crosby, Stills & Nash album titled "Daylight Again" (Atlantic Records #SD - 19360) It's a song titled 'DELTA'. Genius song, moving, and on a good stereo at above average volume (haha) it will floor you. I absolutely love this song -- in the book he talks about how that song was the last true meaningful piece of music he wrote while still getting high. Have you ever heard "DELTA"? Check it out, it's good.
TOM enjoy your Friday, and I will talk to you later...
Peace, Ed in NoCal (I think I'll play that CSN album later today. "Daylight Again", been several months since I've heard it, it will sound good (as always) on my turntable, and out via my 4 stereo speakers! Vinyl rocks, the sound is full, warm, crystal clear, and my stylus / cartridge digs deep into those grooves to bring out subtle music instruments! For example, on "Delta" I can hear Crosby taking a breath milliseconds before he begins a lyric as he sings. That's the power of vinyl, my friend!!!).
It's RIGHTEOUS!
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which are personal; however, I like to share about my own joy in Him also. I think of audio and music and seeing your LP covers as the joy expressed in rejoicing and singing.
I am originally Bay Area and as a frosh, witnessed Bobby Seal, Eldridge Cleaver and many others preach from the downed fence at People's Park in Berkeley in 1968.
If you were there....you understand how incredible it was. Elaine Brown(?)who was the minister of Education of the Panthers introduced me to the concept of male chauvinism.
In the late 70s, I was in a brief Bible study with Cathleen Cleaver! Where could anything like that happen other than the Bay Area. Somewhere Bobby Seal was elected to something. Poor H. Newton, was far to traumatized by the system and directed himself to self destruction.
Saw Hayden and SDS all the time...........never joined in much...just watched things very carefully. I was influenced by it all.....became a CO for the draft and ended up working for the California Div of Forestry as a firefighter for my civilian service.....almost two years. I was paid 22 cents an hour.....convicts were paid 17 cents per hour....while fighting fires throughout the western states.
How can anybody not see God in a Bach prelude and fugue......Beauty through order.
Tom B.
but you kind of know me from here already.
Eldridge Cleaver came back to Jesus in France and I met him about 10 years ago. As was his custom, he wrote poetry and hung out in a Christian cafe and shop located then across from where I work! He's since gone on to Heaven.
Although my faith is classically Biblical, I am also still on a journey. The arts do prove that we have a soul, at the very least.
Last night, KUSC played a celebration concert with Isaac Watts, Brahms PC 2 preceded by Roman Carnival. It was so silky and smooth, but the conservatory orchestra so weak, my wife and I couldn't take it. So I pulled out the Serkin/Szell rendition. Loud steely CBS violins, but, OH, the music. Sublime. Esp movement 3 with the cello. I couldn't remember who was the cellist of the Cleveland then. Not Rose, maybe Harrell, but before Geber. Another proof, this time through sublime beauty.
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