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In Reply to: RE: Don't say 'Vinyl Vs. Digital' which is lame posted by PaulF70 on July 29, 2022 at 20:13:48
"How many have spent big money on a great DAC, been convinced it's the ultimate, no more need for vinyl, then had a realization after some time that music is just not as enjoyable, not just once but in general, for reasons that can't be explained?"I went to a digital based stereo system. The amps are all fed a signal that goes through a speaker cross talk cancelation DSP that was fed a room corrected DSP signal that goes to a digital crossover network. My DAC is a pro DAC that does not cost big money.Never thought this meant no more need for vinyl as I truly enjoy vinyl's euphonic colorations and I enjoy the many better mastered recordings on vinyl. The music has never been nearly so enjoyable as it is now. Not even close. It's whole new ball game.
"To put this query another way, has anyone ever had the realization - unmistakable yet elusive - that an analog-recorded vinyl record is literally playing back music while the best DA converter in the world, no matter how great is sounds, is reconstructing music?"
They are all playing back recordings. Digital just does it more accurately.
"And you can't shake this intuition over a long period of time, no matter how much you want to?"
Bias effects are very powerful
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"Digital just does it more accurately."
Digital sounds far removed from the original event. The best analog recordings come the closest.
"To put this query another way, has anyone ever had the realization - unmistakable yet elusive - that an analog-recorded vinyl record is literally playing back music while the best DA converter in the world, no matter how great is sounds, is reconstructing music?"
They are all playing back recordings. Digital just does it more accurately.
** Your statement is objectively false. It is a fact that an analog medium stores an analog waveform directly, with only EQ applied, while any DAC is constructing the waveform. This is very basic and simple.
This doesn't have any bearing on which, if either, is "better," but it is certainly true.
"And you can't shake this intuition over a long period of time, no matter how much you want to?"
Bias effects are very powerful
** Yeah, actually you don't know what you're talking about.
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Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Not sure how though. "Never thought this meant no more need for vinyl as I truly enjoy vinyl's euphonic colorations and I enjoy the many better mastered recordings on vinyl."
I think Ihave said it many times that all else being equal i generallyprefer vinyl over digital. That has not changed.I also enjoy tube sound too even though my system is all solid state now.
Hobby wise, I'm sure one can put together satisfying systems either way or, all four ways, actually.
I like to say that my current system maybe favors it one way or the other. Maybe, that will change, but to just be enjoying it as it is right now is the first hurdle we face and must surmount.
nt
Still sorting out a few new elements of it first.
Why did I switch to solid state? I now have the Sanders 10E speakers.Roger sanders sells them with a dedicated SS ampmade specifically for the panels and highly recomends using a high powered SS amp for the woofers. Soit seemed like the right thing to do, use the speakers as recomended by the designer.BUT I am also now using a couple tube simulator DSPs. So I have adjustable tube sound at th click of a mouse. It works really well.
Just Goober58's 2 cents.
Edits: 07/30/22
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Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
but I'm not changing it.
nt
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