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when you been religious about the cleanliness and put them away inside what you thought was a good clean sleeve and pull the record out after a few years and find a spec of something stuck to the vinyl.
And it is almost impossible to remove it? Maybe use a drop of something to make it easier to remove?
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A drop of alcohol might do the trick. If it's really stuck hard, in the past I've used magnifying glass to see and the tip of a wooden toothpick to dislodge those specs.
Theory is that mold release compounds in the vinyl come to the surface during pressing from heat and pressure. The stylus tip gets hot from the friction and will melt residual release compound in the groove, and the melted goo clings on to the tip until enough builds up and it falls off. With no more heat from the stylus the goo cools and re-hardens forming those specs. Wet cleaning won't do much to remove them because the goo is not water soluble. If you rub the spec between your fingers after you get it off, it feels kind of waxy. At least that's what I've found in examining specs like what you described.
The theory certainly seems plausible, and I personally cannot come up with a better explanation for why those spec of muck appear.
PVC is a triboelectric material which means that it has an affinity for charge (negative in the case of rigid PVC). The moment you take the vinyl out of the sleeve be it paper or otherwise, particulates in suspension in the ambient environment will be attracted to the surface.
What I do in Winter when the air is very dry is to rinse the record with de-ionised water and use a vac dryer like the KAB EV-1 to suck off the bulk of the water but leave a layer of water on the surface. Place it on the platter and let it naturally evaporate off the surface during play. That ensures the record is as dust free as is realistic to expect during play.
It is impossible to eliminate specs of dust unless you live in and maintain a cleanroom such as is required for chip fabrication or lens manufacture that conforms to a suitable standard. ISO 2 standard is still allowing 100 particles per m3!
Just to give you an idea, there are literally many MILLIONS of particles per m3 in the average domestic setting with particles down to 0.3um and smaller (such as viruses). SARS CoV-2 is 0.1um and the smallest known virus is 20nm!
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
this has nothing to do with what I asked
What happened in my case does not happen often whatsoever. It was even in a plastic clean sleeve. I won't find a sure method of sucess until I have another spec that is extremely difficult to remove. I have no cleaning machine right now.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
I'm sorry you feel that way also
"has nothing to do with what I asked..."
Actually it does have a lot to do with what you asked.
"plastic clean sleeve"
Are you sure it is clean? Did you clean it? Also any place that air can reach so can dust and dirt.
"no cleaning machine..."
This is the best way to clean what you refer to. I have found little specs of whitish stuff on LP's after long storage. A little fluid, some good scrubbing, and removal of the fluid via vacuum always worked. Also ensure that the record it FULLY dried before any storage. Any dampness will cause dirt and mildew.
NO, it does not, sorry to disagree. Sondek's reply is way more informative and to the point.
When you buy new sleeves you would normally expect them to be clean and not need inspection with a microscope before using. MAYBE I SHOULD WASH EVERYTHING BEFORE USE LIKE ALL DUTIFUL WINGNUTS DO
I took a terrible hit including vinyl when storm Ida hit town and also had to throw out many records, many years of collecting. I'm done with this thread.
Thanks a bunch anyway samstone
Agree with theories, and expectations, and should not have to over facts all you want. Good luck it sounds like you may need it...
Edits: 07/03/22
we all need some
Is there any way to take a picture, even using a microscope?
I have occasionally had hard white specks lodge themselves tightly in the groove, as they must have been the same width as the groove. If my finger nail doesn't work, I use a wooden toothpick to remove the specks.
Often, small organic material sticks to the record surface. However, I cannot use an organic solvent to remove them, as the solvent also dissolves the vinyl PVC. Once after a garage sale , I discovered after getting home that white paint splatter was on the record surface. There is nothing that can be done for the reason described above.
It sounds like you already tried a water based cleaning solution, and that didn't work. Other than diluted alcohol, I cannot think of any other solvent to use that wouldn't hurt the record.
it took a couple days of soaking it, first with Last cleaner, then with Last preservative - it was all I had. It still wouldn't budge so I used a brush from an old Watts 'Preener' and a bit of gentle scrubbing - just a bit. It finally came off and I did my best to clean the record with a short hair carbon fiber Decca Brush to finish it off. It was now gone and did not have any damage to the groove playing normally. It was a challenge for sure
If it had been between songs or a quiet passage it might be a different story
Everything you wanted to know about cleaning vinyl is at the link.
I might try the chemicals and regime suggested for discs that remain crackly after my simple wash then rinse using an RCM.
If you've ever worried you're an obsessive this may make you feel better about yourself because I bet you're not as obsessive as this guy!
Wow, was the author toilet trained prenatally?
Ciao,
"One chord is fine. Two chords are pushing it. Three chords and you're into jazz." - Lou Reed
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