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I was in a used record store today and, remarkably, they had written the price in grease pencil on the lead-out area of some of their records (on the vinyl). Any idea how to clean this stuff off? It wipes off, but the grease in the grooves remains there. I can't believe the idiocy of this. The guy behind the counter got indignant when I asked how to clean it off. He said if it bothered me maybe I didn't need to buy the records (which, in the end, I didn't). But I might go back if anybody knows a foolproof way to clean the stuff out. Solvent? Thanks.
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This will surely get the job done.
I do it all in the name of music!!!
for protein, starches, and fats. Fat enzymes would be essential for this case.
They use that stuff to cut all kinds of grease and rescue animals coated with crude oil.
Its worth a try,
Ed
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none of those worked. I don't have any more Dawn on hand.
According to their own marketing material, Dawn is very good at breaking up and dispersing grease. I don't know if this includes the type of grease that you are having trouble with but they use Dawn to rescue wildlife exposed to crude oil spills.
Hopefully it will be equally effective on grease pencils and it should be gentle enough to not pose any damaging effects on the vinyl itself. Their marketing blurb is something like "tough on grease but gentle on hands".
Its worth a shot. If it doesn't work, all you will waste is the money on some good dishwashing liquid.
Ed
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below that immediately attacked all or part of the grease pencil mark. Dawn didn't even start to budge the mark. Other detergents/surfactants like Dawn that I tried also had no effect on the grease pencil. I even tried Original Woolite that I use in my own record cleaning fluid, but it was ineffective. Lighter fluid, alcohol, and enzymes had the greatest effect. I didn't try anything that I believed harmful to the vinyl, such as acetone, etc.
But I would try letting it soak a while to see if the grease pencil will loosen up.
By now the cleaners that you've used have removed the top level grease, you are likely dealing with the tough stuff and nothing is going to remove that easily. It will take time and persistence.
At least the Dawn won't do anything to the LP itself. It may not work at all but it won't affect the vinyl itself.
Ed
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I'd try Krud Kutter on a cotton swab. If required, maybe use a soft toothbrush.
The product does work on candle wax, and a 'grease' pencil is essentially some form of colored paraffin. A very versatile and effective cleaner with a fairly benign MSDS.
I used it on fireplace stonework for soot with great results.
The local thrift puts big price marks on the sleeve in grease pencil and it drives me crazy. I tried Magic Eraser but it wears off the cover illustration too. Any ideas?
and it works perfectly. After removing the tag, I use a little more fluid to eliminate the adhesive, then wipe clean and let dry. It has never left a mark for me. I would caution that porous, matte, type jackets may not respond quite the same.
probably work on the vinyl as well(does on deadwax) but not sure I'd want it in the grooves...
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure
I'd suggest experimenting with a grease pencil on some reject vinyl before attacking the stuff you care about. If you don't wish to suffer the indignation of buying one you could just have the clerk mark up a couple of grinders for you to take home to play with.
W
Lighter fluid will do the job.
NEVER use acetone on vinyl, it melts it! (guess how I know this)
Any heavy duty, acetone, type solvent. and i've learned this the hard way, will remove plenty of desired vinyl surface with it.
I've never tried a little lighter fluid. I like the idea of a rubber eraser.
As far as real record cleaning products.. i'm thinking that Disc Doctor's Miracle Cleaner.. undiluted would be your best bet. I have a tone, if you wanted to try a sample out.. Lemme know.
Honestly p*sses me off that shop owners are that obtuse about this stuff. I know we're a somewhat dedicated, obsessive group, but how hard is it to respect the grooves? I've seen too many ding dongs laying their greasy fingers all over the playing surface when handling them, too many guys dedicated to vodka cleaning techniques.. but a greased pencil near or on the playing surface? How 'bout a price gun dummy?
99% isopropyl alcohol works almost as good as lighter fluid, followed by a quick rinse. Believe it or not, a pencil eraser also provides about 90% satisfaction, and that can be used on the delicate label. The eraser is not perfect, but I would be scared to try anything else on a colored label. Go gentle with the eraser, and you will also need to change positions on the eraser to find an unused surface. You can clean the used surface of the eraser on a piece of paper.
Try turpentine followed by your normal record cleaner.
stu
Wish I had an answer to that. I've got a bunch of 78s that came out of radio station library. Sixty years later the damn grease pencil marks are still there. No amount of scrubbing with warm soapy water will remove them. Thankfully I'm just dealing with dates written in the dead wax, so it really does not affect playback. Still annnoying though. That a record store would do this is proof that morons are in the business.
A word of caution: 78's are not vinyl. They are a shellac composition. Do not use anything containing alcohol to clean grease pencil off of the record because alcohol is the solvent for shellac. It will re-soften the shellac and you could damage grooves or get lint from your cloth stuck to the record. Shellac re-wets fast and dries quickly.
You also don't want to use water hotter than lukewarm (tepid) if cleaning a 78. Heat and moisture can break down shellac, and soften it as well.
I work in a thrift shop. The way I remove grease pencil from 78's and hard plastics is with a plain, dry paper towel. If it is stubborn I rub a little liquid detergent over it, let it soften the mark, and rub it out. Then I clean the soap off of it with a damp sponge and wipe dry until the soap is removed.
If there's any grease pencil left in the end groove (lead out), the needle on a phonograph should clear out most of it by playing the record.
I came here looking for a solution to removing grease pencil from soft vinyl - the kind used on children's backpacks. Still haven't found anything to work on that. Suggestions?
Goo Gone will remove it but you have to wash with dish soap and water after.
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