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I recently acquired a handful of Verve compilations from the 70's--all two disc sets--including Billie holiday, "Embraceable You," Dizzy Gillespie, "The Sonny Stitt/Sonny Rollins Sessions," "The Genius of Bud Powell," "Ella Fitzgerald sings the Cole Porter Song Book," Ella and Louis, and Lester Young.All the sets are clean as a whistle, play flawlessly, and sound great.
My question is, how do these reissues stack up to original pressings? I'm not a vinyl collector in the sense that I seek out rare albums, original pressings, etc. But I will swap records out for better sounding copies. So, for those of you who have been able to compare, would it be worth my time to look for minty, original pressings of this material, or should I be content with these reissues?
Thanks for your advice.
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Considering its getting tougher to find them in the bargain bin in acceptable condition, sealed 70s reissues can still be had for $10-15 bucks
at least in my area. I have both a period (60)and 70's copy of Ella in Berlin.
The original isn't mint yet very nice sounding. Found a sealed reissue and
"Mack the Knife" sounds just as good. Probably one of the top live albums of anyone.
... plus a few of the Japanese editions and the more recent CD releases.Purchased the two-fers when they were released in the 70s, then gradually collected originals, singly or as parts of collections over the years.
Have both versions of most of the Gillespie, Charlie Parker, Ella songbooks, Getz "Focus", Holiday, quite a few others.
Save yourself the time, effort, and money searching out clean originals. The twofers are superb - any difference in sound is minor and not worth the premium you'll pay for a first pressing - you'd be paying for the artifact, not the music and sound.
The great liner notes on the twofers are added bonuses. They were a big part of my education in the history of jazz (back before there were those interweb thingies).
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I concur 100%. Don't waste your time searching for originals, these
resisues are about as good as they get.
I worked in radio when these came out and because it was a top forty station, they had no use for these albums and I took dozens of them home.
Thru the years I aquired many mint originals of these titles and the originals sound good also, but not consistantly.
BTW, the Dizzy Gillespie Sonny Stitt/Sonny Rollins is a set of fantastic performances! Wheatleigh Hall and Haute Mon' are particularly incredible.
rlindsa
Yeah, this is one of my favorites. I have Sonny Side Up on CD, and was excited to get it on vinyl. Sounds great, too.
Ella's Cole Porter Song Book.
The original pressing, Speakers Corner Pressing and the later pressing. When I have a chance I'll listen to the70s reissue as I haven't listened to it. ( this was given to me )
This is the pressing you have, right?
Yep, that's the one. Cool, thanks.
Those re-issues are top notch. The great Bob Ludwig from Masterdisk did the remastering and the vinyl quality is very good. I have a few originals and the re-issues stack up very well.They are often better than the Japanese re-issues - which are very good as well. Good luck finding the originals in decent condition. These two-fers are an excellent and inexpensive solution to that problem.
I was unaware that Bob Ludwig mastered the re-issues, I'll be looking for them. That's great info, thanks.
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To be clear, he mastered the ones that I have, Diz, Webster, Hawkins, Eldridge, Evans, to name a few. I can't say for certain that he did ALL of them - lest you wind up disappointed with some online purchase.
Add to that Getz, Ella, and Parker. I haven't yet found any that he didn't remaster.
I don't have any items I can use to do a direct comparison, but I was actually listening to a 2LP Billie Holiday reissue this morning, called The First Verve Sessions and besides having great music, it sounded quite good for music from the early 50s to me.
you're listing some original album titles but calling them compliations so I'm a little confused about what you're asking. verve put out some great sounding vinyl....the original ella songbooks are excellent as is ella and louis. holiday's all or nothing at all is one of my best sounding albums and i'm patiently waiting for the ap 45 to come out
Why are you confused? I wrote that I had "reissues/compilations." Albums like Ella and Louis, The Genius of Bud Powell, and Ella sings Cole Porter are reissues of albums, while the Lester young and Billie Holiday, for instance, are compilations of classic recordings from throughout their stints with Verve.
"I recently acquired a handful of Verve compilations from the 70's--all two disc sets--including Billie holiday, "Embraceable You," Dizzy Gillespie, "The Sonny Stitt/Sonny Rollins Sessions," "The Genius of Bud Powell," "Ella Fitzgerald sings the Cole Porter Song Book," Ella and Louis, and Lester Young."
but you have clarified it now
yes, I would like to know as well, I have a fair number of these relatively inexpensive sets and the sounds is really good, but how do they compare to other issues?
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