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For those who may be interested, very nice and very few made. Lots of photos. I have no association with this listing.
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HiFiDo (www.hifido.co.jp) have these for sale relatively often. They usually demand around 2500$ for them. No doubt they will be quite expensive to ship, but the price in the auction does seem to be completely insane in my opinion.
Also I very much doubt the claim that this was the big brother to the DP100. The 308 looks MUCH older to my eyes.
The DP-100 (and DP-100M (the "M" model designates that it included the Denon 12" servo tonearm)) was built to order between 1981 and the mid 1980s by the consumer side of the business.
The Denon 308-F was made roughly the same time by the professional side of the business which was heavily influenced by NHK's engineers (this was effectively designed by NHK engineers from what I understand, in combination with Denon's engineers and Denon production. These were sold to radio stations, studios, museums, schools, etc. They were sold with a maintenance package and were very expensive (more expensive over a multi-year period than a DP-100M). They have come out of these places over time but Denon refuses to service them when they are not owned by the original contract signatory (in my experience). Denon believes that it is a breach of contract to transfer it to anyone but Denon (the idea was that you would return it and upgrade to the new model - a leasing system). The only people who service them are people who used to work at Denon and who have set up shop outside. Denon will service the consumer tables still (I have had work done on a couple DP-100s).
There were more of the 308s made than there were DP-100s made. The pro series started with lower numbers. I have seen a 306 (from the 70s), lots of 307s, a few different versions of 308s (308Es, 308 Fs (of which there are a few different second suffixes)). Between the 306s, 307s, adn 308s there were probably thousands. The console structure did not change measurably from the 70s through to the end.The non-console broadcast models before that go all the way back to the 50s. The broadcast models from the late 50s early 60s are highly sought after by vintage collectors and when refurbished, sound great. I would love one.
The DP-100s, for what it is worth, probably number not more than 200 or so (according to Denon - but interestingly, they don't seem to have accurate records any more).
I own both. The DP-100M is, to my ears, a better table. By a fair margin.
The 308 arm is OK but not fantastic. The DP-100M arm is truly fantastic. What you get with the 308 is a top-notch phono stage and great preamp. You can plug the console direct to your amp and away you go. Taken that way, it is a great-sounding table. It is also truly stable. I have wanted to create a new console out of solid wood rather than the thick MDF of the original.
The guy selling it on ebay is, as far as I can tell, not using the right headshell with that arm. The 308 arm on the 308 table required a special headshell - shorter than normal. His alignment is almost certainly off. That said, the table looks like it is in great condition. The veneer often comes off and starts to look bad.
Having acquired 5 of these tables over time - currently rebuilding 4 of them into Tabletop versions, the 5th I acquired in 2007 and refurbished it in its original console, if googling Denon DN308 its the one that shows up almost first with the red door behind it.Anyway reason for posting is that with 5 of then DN308 under my belt I have some indication of how many actually was made, I'd guess at a little over 1600 units in total.
As follows in case anyone is interested.
#472 - May 1983
#728 - Mar 1985
#1016 - Dec 1986 (the one that stayed a console)
#1558 - Jan 1992
#1608 - Jan 1993If anyone is interested in making the DN308 into a Tabletop version, let me know.
Good Listening
Peter
Edits: 04/21/17
Are moving forward on the DN 308, making 6 of these
Here is another more complete picture - don't know how to post multiples in the same post.
Wow!
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