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In Reply to: RE: cartridge for Magnepan Unitrac posted by saxman73 on July 06, 2012 at 14:18:28
The difference between the V15III and the ADC XLM II is not significant enough to make the change. Add that SAS stylus to the V15III and you probably push the advantage over to the Shure V15.
Unless you are going to put something like the Grace F9 Ruby or the F9 with a luminal trace stylus on that Unitrac, I would stick with the V15III with the SAS.
Ed
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I have a V15 IV with SAS and an Ultra 500 with SAS and the ADC XLM MKII. The ADC is the hands down winner, IMHO. It is far more involving and dynamic. It is the cart that makes me want to put more LPs on the table. The two Shures didn't. 'nuff said.
Opus 104
i'm using a technics SL1600MK2. i've tried lots of carts on it. spectral MCR, lyra lydian, denon dl-103, adc xlm MKII and MKIII. gonna try a pickering 1100S soon (basically a stanton 681EEE-S with the D-11-S stylus).
unless you have a super high end turntable and an equally high end phono stage, you probably won't be maximizing the benefits of a fancy LOMC. and would probably get more sonic benefit from a "more humble" cartridge.
Robby
Since we are talking about Shures with SAS stylii but back in the day I owned an ADC XLMII and a V15III. I preferred the ADC slightly but the V15III to me, in my rig at the time, was a much more musical cartridge than the V15IV. That could have been the stock stylus or whatever but IIRC the audio press pretty much agreed.
The V15IV was regarded a less desirable cartridge than the V15IV. The IV could out track the III but the III just sounded better.
I owned all of those cartridges (V15III, V15IV, ADC XLMII, XLMII Improved, XLMIII and Super XLM II and III). Anyway the V15III was the most musical of the Shure V15s.
When I went to the V15IV it was definately less involving than the V15III. I suppose you would have the set all of this stuff up on the Maggie arm and try it out.
I wouldn't be surprised if the ADC was the winner but I remember the V15III as a pretty nice musical cartridge. The same cartridge with a SAS stylus could be a different animal. Do they make a SAS replacement stylus for the ADC XLM?
Ed
We don't shush around here!
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
have a Jico shibata which was made for the XLM MKII improved, but will fit he standard MKII body. Haven't tried it yet.
As far as the Shure Type III vs. Type IV, I agree with the stock styli. But the SAS changes everything.
Opus 104
Do you still prefer the XLMII with its stock stylus over the SASed V15IV or how would you characterize the comparison of these two when you put a SAS in the V15IV?
Also, does the Ultra 500 with a SAS compare a little better to the XLM II or is the ADC still preferrable? Its been a lot of years since I have owned these cartridges and I still fondly remember the ADC XLM and V15III as the best of the Shure V15s.
And finally how would you compare the Grace F9 to the above cartridges?
I think I can predict the answer given what you are listening to but I had to ask.
Ed
We don't shush around here!
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
Opus 104
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