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Well, got yelled at again from my wife for cleaning records. Too noisy!!!! Any suggestions on a RCM that is really quiet but not something I need to save a year for to buy? I have a VPI
and it is dependable and works well but sounds like a jet engine. I could sell the VPI to help finance another RCM. Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Zenn RCM.
doesn't make any noise at all.
enjoy,
mark
IME basically cleans as well as a vac machine. The main disadvantage compared to vac machines is in the drying process. It's definitely as close to silent as you can get.
"Record Are Your Best Entertainment Value!"
Try your mom. Mine whistles very softly while cleaning my used LPs..... hardly know she's in the house.....
That was good!
dee
;-D
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If your wife gives you grief for occasionally cleaning records, time to sit that woman down for a good talking to.
I was kinda thinking that way. Close the door for starters. Or get her a set of these (maybe two sets):
nt
Me too. I have a budget version of your machine. And the headset. :)
NT
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;^)
The Audio Deske Systeme is reputed to be whisper-silent, and costs about what a Yugo used to. OTOH, the Disc Doctor fluids, used and removed manually following the instructions, work---but this is incredibly labor intensive. Me? I would just wait to VPI when wifey is out of the house.
use the VPI when she is there in hopes she WILL leave so you can get in a good listening session with the volume at 11. (-:
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Since my DIY vacuum-based record cleaning system is in the basement, I have never had any complaints about record cleaning noise.
I prefer to listen to music relatively loud so that used to be problematic at times.
Mike
The quietest one I have used is the Spin Clean - though it is fully manual (and easy to use). At $80 you could have that along with your VPI - no trade ins. Perhaps the VPI becomes "stage 2" if the spin clean isn't enough? Gets it cleaner than Nitty Gritty (my only basis of comparison) - but no vacuum suction, you spin the records through a brush and through a bath of cleaner - then once you turn it 3 times 1 way, 3 times the other way and then hand dry with lint free cloth. Works great, and is quieter than a whispered conversation.I wish you didn't have to do the hand drying - pain in the butt, but you can listen to your records as you clean if you want to. Does solve the "quiet" problem. And once you get "in the groove" of it - you can get through a dozen records before you know it. You are also stuck using their proprietary cleaner, too (non alcohol based from its smell).
I found it hard to justify $500-600 when you can get the same for $80-120! I'll get a semi auto/full auto one day, but I simply cannot justify it right now...
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad"
Edits: 05/24/12 05/24/12
....clean records while your wife is vacuuming, or out of the house, or in the shower.
My wife bitches about a lot of stuff, too.
Shop Vac in an R-13 insulated plywood box. I use a 1HP Shop Vac w/o the box and it's FDA safe and effective.
Shop Vac in an R-13 insulated plywood box. His clever design had a DD Turntable on top. I use a 1HP Shop Vac w/o the box or the wife ;-} and it's FDA safe and effective.
I suppose you could put the VPI inside another box in a way that you could close the lid?
Loricraft. Look no further.
Brian Walsh
I have a Loricraft and I must say more trouble then its worth.The thread is a pain,but worse still,on average a blockage in either arm or tubing at least once a month.
Yes it is quiet.
I had one of the Keith Monks domestic models in the early 80s and the methodology is not unlike the Loricraft. Many people swear by the Loricraft but, like you, I would find it finicky to use and I don't like the thread aspect of the machine which is borrowed from the Keith Monks' models. I would never buy a Loricraft and will stick with my VPI HW 17F in spite of the 'jet engine' type noise it emits!
There are some nice looking machines from Clearaudio in Germany? The downside is that they are expensive in Europe so they are probably even more expensive in the United States. If I recall correctly, they are quieter in operation than most other machines. The VPI Typhoon would probably be a more sensible choice from a cost standpoint, even at 2k?
Man you must clean very dirty records! Never had a blockage myself. Maybe try to secure the tubing more securely where it plugs into the glass jar, adding a metal collar around it, and vaseline along the edge of the jar before putting the lid on. This should increase suction.
pp
the loricraft can be one of the best rcm's when it's working properly. your metal clamp/vaseline suggestion is actually the kind of thing i found frustrating about it when i had one though. from things like finding o rings to fit the thread spindle to make it work well to finding a way to dampen the arm to keep it from hitting the thread plate to with even having the arm balanced correctly the occasional leaving spots of fluid on the record to when using just a little too much fluid having it spin off the record are just a few of the things i found to be a little too finicky.
if it hadn't been for suggestions from other users, like yourself in this thread, i also wouldn't have had the ways to fix the small problems that came up when i had a loricraft. i've never needed those kinds of suggestions with either of the vpi rcm's i've had.
The Loricraft is indeed very quiet. One but make a phone call while using it. But it might fall under the "have to save for a year" category.
quiet can get expensive. $2000+ for the vpi typhoon or lower priced hannl can get you 10+ db less than the 16.5...not really quiet but with the more powerful suction the vacuum is only on for a few seconds. $3000+ for the even quieter loricraft prc 3/4 or the higher priced hannl. $5000+ for the quietest loricraft...i don't know what keith monks are going for. there may also be others that someone here may have knowledge of.
Perhaps a used one if you can trust the seller?...or perhaps someone will write about doing something diy to make the 16.5 quieter. I think it was Tre who did a diy loricraft but i don't remember what he has written about noise level.
my wife bought a loricraft prc4 because of the noise of the 16.5 but we have since gone to the vpi typhoon. both of those have a quality build.
This thing is pretty quiet. Just go easy on the brushing and you'll be fine.
Go buy a Shop Vac "Quiet Series"...the 6 gallon one works fine. Cobble it in..if you want pics and direction I'll be happy to post my VPI 17 running this way.
None - zippo , zero, nada.
You should trade in your wife instead... just kidding.
I do hear the Oki Noki is one of the quieter ones. Kinda like an F-18 is probably quieter than an F4 Phantom??
oops - forgot about that silly string cleaner machine thingy- what's it called ??? the one that has that little suction cup and does each groove...? beaucoup bucks.... senior moment - can't remember it's name... Monks... something like that.
Okki Nokki is quieter than a home vacuum, but not quiet. The Keith Monks
is quiet, but might take two years savings...
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