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1. Tube -- Fisher 500C -- why? a truly seductive sound, rich, well balanced, on the dark side; just wonderful FM, powerful, classic looks, flexible, built like a tank2. SS -- Marantz 19 -- why? very dynamic, lively sound, superb FM, powerful, amazing looks, flexible, built like a tank
3. Not on the list below -- but a favorite -- Pioneer SX828 was my first really nice component -- smooth, high quality ss sound, well balanced; excellent FM, powerful, really cool looks with blue light, flexible, very well built
If I had to live with just one? I think the Fisher 500C. But I wouldn't be happy about it.
I'll vote for my Marantz 2270. I loved it back when I bought it new and still do. Great FM, more than adequate power for the speakers I've married it with and looks stunning with the blue lites and gyro tuning. Of course, I've had the FM realigned twice since then but that's preventative maintenence.
B/c I have one! I think it sounds absolutely great, looks very sweet (with wood case, especially), has a power tranny that's h-u-g-e and tube sockets that are nice and firm (unlike the ancient Made in Italy flip-floppy sockets I've seen in a certain "other" brand). Perhaps most importantly, it seems to have great synergy w/ my Snell J/II speakers.
a little better. The biggest difference was the tube rectification used in the 402 vs the SS used in the 602 series. The 602 and 602M were MUCH more common though. I don't think they produced very many 402s by comparison.
I like my Marantz (have and had got a lot ;-) )I ve got right now a 4300, 2325, 2252 They are so nice to look at (and sounds good too)a good value for surebut The best sound I heard is the HK x30 series (had got 2 430) and my god the tuner is as good as the amp so I think the 630 730 930 must be better!!
Tandberg TR 2080 is a good choice too (as good as the HK)
If the house were on fire I'd grab my Fisher 500C and Dynaco A-35s. I could leave it on all day (and sometimes do) and never get tired of it.
Good to hear that about the 500c. And the A25's. Got both. Fixing up the 500c. Brought it up using a variac and it runs well. Eric
Why?
1. Modestly powered, but solid as a rock and plenty of power to drive any speaker I'm likely to use
2. Plenty of facilities and hookups, but easy to operate
3. Great tuner and cool 'scope. Works well with a ten-dollar RS antenna
4. First (and last) receiver made by Marantz in America
5. Overall great look and feel in my rack, without a wood case, which I feel is overkill
Sorry to burst your bubble but the 19 was designed and produced in the US in its early years. Later the receiver was kitted and sent to Japan for assembly, returned to the US for final QC and alignment. The Japanese made units still used the same components and supplied parts as the US manufactured units.
Tie:Marantz 2285BD w/ wood case: Looks, power, fm tuning.
Sony STR-V7: Power, looks, phono section, versatility
If the house was burning, I guess I would take the Sony...today, anyway....
I know everybody gets tired of my answer, they have heard it so much! But I must represent!! The Harman Kardon HK-730 hands down! Why? Here we go again.......1. Dual power supplies! Absolutely the best feature a solid state amp can have IMHO.
2. Two of every input - 2 phonos - 2 tape decks - 2 auxillary
3. The tuner section - Excellent! good enough to use on it's own.
4. Build quality! Every bit as good as Marantz or dare I say "better"!
5. Styling, very clean and understated! Cool green and red!
6. Great phono section!
7. Power Bandwidth - 10Hz-40kHz <0.1% THD, Freq. Resp. 4HZ-130kHz +/-0.5dB., Damping Factor > 30 @1kHz@1watt Sensitivity, FM IHF 1.9uV
8. Based on all the above factors an amp section with 40 watts RMS/channel @ 8 ohms <0.1% THD that truly sounds like 75-100 watts!
9. With the tech manual it has a fairly easy to understand circuitry and it's easy to change lamps and make adjustments to. It has a solid chassis and things are bolted in well, access from bottom and top so you can easily clean the pots and selector contacts!
10. If you get a good one and you probably will, It has an unexplainable magical warm tube like quality to it's sound, especially when paired with vintage accoustic suspension speakers. A "sweet bass heavy pleasant distortion" if you will. kind of like the Comb filter affect I suppose. I've always told people it sounds like it's sucking the air out of the room! If you haven't heard it you don't know yet!Other than that, it's just an average receiver! Best! Franksta
Marantz 2275. My first "highend" receiver as a kid, after the panasonic "junk", was the Marantz 2235. I really wanted the 2275, but my dad thought the 2235 was enough for my little fisher speakers and all I can do was dream for more power.
-Jerry O.
For a warm-sounding receiver with plenty of power, I would choose the Marantz 2270. For a receiver with lower THD, a more transparent sound and an excellent FM tuner, my favorite would be the Marantz 2265B.
Yamaha CR-1020. Why? Because what they call 'Natural Sound' I call 'Transparent Sound' - what goes in comes out - no changes, nothing added, just louder.Saw Matt's post about the Marantz 2250B, as soon as I get it restored I'll give a listen.
Marantz 2250BHard to find but IMO one of the best vintage receivers ever built and sounds great.
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During the so called "power wars" of the mid to late 70's we saw RMS wattage ratings jump from small numbers like 35 watts @ 8 ohms up to 100 watt @ 8 ohms and beyond. I think nobody played on the power theme like Pioneer with their SX-1980, rated at a whopping 270 Watts RMS. It still commands a high price to this day, I think last I checked it was around 1,000 dollar for one. If I was to have a favourite receiver the SX-1980 would be it. I have heard one a while back with JBL-L100's and some huge Mac Line arrays and it sounded as good if not better than any of the newer Pioneer Elite receivers on the market today...
Technics actually 1 uped the pioneer with its mighty SA 1000 at 330 watts per channel. I saw one of these beasts for sale at my local Technics dealer back in the late 70s. This thing was HUGE and weighed
about 80 pounds. I think the asking price was around $1500. I think Technics actually won the Receiver wars with the SA 1000. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Yes, Technics did make a 330 watt per channel receiver. I don't remember what kind of solid state devices it used, but I read about it once on the web. I never heard one, so I can not comment on its sound..
I believe you are right. I think that the Sansui G-33000 also had 330 Watts. In second (third?) place was the Marantz 2600 at 300 Watts per channel. Then the SX-1980, Marantz 2500....What is the difference between 330 300 or 270 watts anyway, aside from probably Marketing inflated numbers to 'win' the wars.
Was there really a significant power difference between the Marantz 2500 and 2600?
With that much power, which most people with any hearing left would never use anyway. I do not think there is much difference on those TOTL receivers other than price and bragging rights.
I have run through Marantzs, Pioneers and small Sansuis. I have a Sansui G22000 that has them all beat. The Amp is very neutral and clean for Rock and Jazz and the Am/Fm is the strongest I have found. I am running JBL 112s and 150s, sometimes together and sometime separate.
Used to have a Marantz 2270. Wish I still had it. Warm sound, powerful amp, built like a tank, and classic cosmetics. Just a timeless classic piece of gear.Also had an awesome E-V receiver (don't remember the model) that I picked up at a thrift for 10 bucks. Sounded fantastic with warm, deep bass and TONS of volume.
MCS 3125, easily one of the finest sounding receivers I have heard, very powerful, excellent tuner
Fisher RS-1060, anyone besides me own this 57lb monster? Excellent built quality, tuner and sound
Olson RA-250, the finest FM tuner I have seen standalone or otherwise, besides the fact that it sounds like tube equipment and it is solid state
My personal 2-channel favourite is the esteemed Harman Kardon H/K 930 receiver. It was their top-of-the line receiver in its day.Why do I like it so much?
1. The tuner is as good as many separate vintage tuners. It was a
different and better-built tuner than H/K put into any of their
other receivers.2. The preamp was (and still is very musical and very-good
sounding. It has a superb phono section for those of us
who still listen to vinyl.3. The amp was very conservatively rated at 45wpc. It will drive
almost anything to a reasonable level AND sound great. Remember,
an H/K rated at 45 wpc is pretty much equivalent to any Asian
receiver rated at 150 wpc in terms of "real world" power into
real world speakers.4. They can still be serviced by a variety of good techs listed
in the FM tuner group. The FM tuner group does not test tuners
in receivers, but if they did, I think the H/K 930 tuner would be
one of the top ranking ones.
right now.... it's my sansui black face 990....the looks and sound.
a marantz 26 - Kind of like a plain jane chevy bel air with a 409 under the hood - I've head-to-head tested this receiver up against much bigger and much more powerful models and most every time it wins - I call it the little dynamo - I like it so much I have two of 'em
Surprisingly a recent find. A Pioneer QX-8000 Quad. Got it in mid Oct. Got it to play around with. Fixed one new in'73. The price was right, only $47 off the 'Bay. Got bored and needed a project.It really surprised me. They always looked good with a nice blue lighted dial. Replaced a bulb and cleaned the pots and selectors. I was going to resell it. Sounded good in 2 channel,figured I would hook to the bedroom system which is setup for 4 channel. The sound jumped out the JBL-L100's up front and the AR-4X's on the rear. Like we are all found of saying. Matching speakers is everything! Hard to beleive it sounded better than a Pioneer SX-850--a nice one and my Pioneer QX-949, a newer Quad. Great sound. It challenges my livingroom system-a Mac and Marantz combo. Very good FM too! Kept it and sold off the other two.
Got my Fisher 500c running today. Used a variac and it looks like it is a good one. Will see. Its doing well and the caps seem OK. FM is strong too. It will be interesting to see how it sounds with the JBL's and AR's
Fisher 800B: no noise (none at all, zero) nice to look at, great sonically, plenty of power, obtainable tubes to roll, don't listen to fm but i hear it's good - lol!
That chassis is really clean...what did you use? If you saw my postyou know I have a 500c. It a lot nicer than my previous one. Any tips on cleaning it? Thanks Eric
Really the pic does not do it justice, it was an original owner ( my father ) no smoker environment (and it does have the original walnut case, I just like to to admire Avery's handiwork) piece; someday I'll tote it outside and get a good pic of it. Between the cheesy camera and the dodgy flash/auto aperture it's hard to get the exposure right - digitally. I have not done anything but vacuum it monthly. It is pristine. I love it.
Marantz 18. good antenna, good speakers - magic. Perhaps one of the finest tuner in a receiver. And looks to boot.
charles
Am currently aurally enamoured of a modded Sherwood S-7100A! Replaced the speaker output wires, as well as the amp-board to f.e.t. wiring. Has that crisp audio quality reminiscient of Marantz' MR-235's D.C.amp section, combined with the sonic magic of Pioneer's SX-780's f.m.tuner section! Via rabbit ears, does an excellent job rejecting computer harmonics, whilst receiving relatively quiet signals from Nevada City's KVMR(60-plus miles away) and U.C.Davis'KDVS(20 miles westward)! Nice phono section also! A great little undervalued unit for high efficiency speaker devotees!
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