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In Reply to: RE: In the latter 70s... posted by E-Stat on April 24, 2017 at 18:13:32
Remember when Nakamichi used NP's Stasis technology in their amps? They paid NP for that but they couldn't get their amps sound like the Threshold at all. I want to get my FET 10E back out. Speaking of D'Agostino. I knew Leonard and Chris at Martin Logan and I used to tell them,quit using that lifeless Krell amp to demo your speakers with. They would always respond with,tell me about it. LOL. They knew the Krell amps were lifeless but Gayle Sanders and D'Agostino were buds so the story goes.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
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I sold Nakamichi in the 80's, and they had some great CD players, preamps and of course, cassette decks. On every other speaker we tried them on, the Stasis Nakamichi sounded dull and lifeless, but on Acoustats they sounded great. Somehow the flaws balanced out. Go figure!
Dave
They paid NP for that but they couldn't get their amps sound like the Threshold at all.
Execution is everything. :)
They knew the Krell amps were lifeless but Gayle Sanders and D'Agostino were buds so the story goes.
HP used Krell amps on the Nola bass towers where they excelled.
HP used Krell amps on the Nola bass towers where they excelled."Oh yes,they were exceptional on bass and they were detailed and accurate in the mids in an analytical sense but they were very boring and dry to a lot of people including myself.
This Plinus is the amp that I was very impressed with this winter when I heard it on my friend's Apogee Divas. We were running a tube preamp tho.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
Edits: 04/26/17
Just like Kingshead, moi is a Carver convertee, too. Carver got their Flame Linear reputation due to under-spec'ed parts gettin' stressed & failing. Properly repaired, however, Carver gear will rock long-n-strong. ... Got a MXR-130 Receiver a few years ago which had those problematic power resistors replaced by previous owner & apparently par-tayed mercilessly. Which peaked curiosity for a PM-600 pro amp, which was designed for similar abuse. Both 130-n-600 are Class G Magnetic Field amps, & have a "this is what your speakers sound like" presentation. Along with a panoramic sound-stage which Hafler surround-sound aficionados will find enticing. However, both 130-n-600 amps have a mid-range peak akin to Celestion's V-30 speaker. Won't be noticed on more neutral sounding speakers, & mid-recessed speakers will sound fuller. But mid-range-centric speakers will sound shouty, irrespective of volume level. ... Your M1.0t amps, Michael, were designed to emulate Conrad Johnson's Premiere Five tube amps. There are BillD update mods available over on the Carver site, amongst a myriad of available Carver topology updates. Moi's 600 really bloomed by simply bypassing volume controls, & now prefers Mitsubishi DA-C20 pre over Carver CT-17. Properly performing Magnetic Field amps apparently have a "this is what your pre-amp sounds like" presentation, too. Whoever gets your refurbed M1.0t amps will be extremely grateful, Michael. 73s para Sactown P.S.: HAPPY 100th BIRTHDAY ELLA FITZGERALD !!!
Your M1.0t amps, Michael, were designed to emulate Conrad Johnson's Premiere Five tube amps"
It's funny you say that because I have a pair of Carver 4.0 amps and those are the ones that say vacuum tube transfer function on them.I take it the 1.0t also have that function?
I had the CJ Premier five EL34 amps in my home for 3 months back in the mid 80s because my friends were CJ dealers and Tom let me use them while they moved into their new and larger store. I thought they were wonderful at the time because I was using them on my Magnapan Typmpani lVa speakers.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
Indeed they do, Michael. That "t" designation stands for Transfer Function Modified. 130 Receiver's amp was based on TFM-24/25 amps (one amp had analog meters, the other LED's). Silver Seven amps were Carver's top dawgs, so M-4.0t should be a delight. Might be fun A/B testing your Carvers, & wondering how actual Premiere 5/Silver Seven would compare. BTW, 600 allows for switch-selectable bridged mono mode operation. 73s para Sactown
Where do you make good finds like that?
You have some nice friends. Why is it all of mine buy HT's at Best Buy.
I don't know but I have a lot of those friends to Charles.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
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