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I have two TTs Dual 1019 and a Dual 1228
I am going to take them to the shop to have them going over.
If anyone had any comments like cost of repair thats repair.
What to watch out for in TT repairs.
I have a Music Hall that I use constantly but want to set up these two with some amps I have. What TT do you prefer any info would be appreciated.
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Dual fans tend to prefer certain models over others but I've never heard one that sounded horrible, bad or anything less than good. I have a 1225 that I spent $12 before cart on, and after fiddling with it a bit, went from frozen up, not spinning, to fully operational and speed-consistant. It's one of 6 tables I keep in regular rotation (at least until the record is over)...
Freedom is the right to discipline yourself.
Funnily enough, I just went thru this on a 1019, and still must on a coupla-three other Duals.
The thing I would watch out for is the muting switch. This is supposed to mute the audio when the needle is not on the record, or in the leadout groove. However, my experience seems to say that after 40 years, it will kinda be half-on, half off and cause hum, crackle and pop. Just bypass it and it should solve those problems. If it doesn't, the arm wiring or headshell contact is suspect.
The 1019 and other Dual models' repair and owner's manuals are on vinylengine.com, just join and they are free for download. These are worth fixing. I put a beater 1209 in my system when I had some issue with my Rega Planar 3, which I'd enjoyed for 21 years. I sold the Rega, upgraded to a 1019; the Rega arm is better but the 1019 is a better table somehow.
-nosmok
Interesting, I've had a Rega P3 for over 10 years now and the other day just for fun I decided to try the 1019 from my office in my main system and I'm finding that I really like the punch and drive of the 1019. The Rega is very smooth and easy to listen to but the 1019 gets your attention! Very musical.
WOW looks like I have two nice tables.
Gonna have some fun, thanks all
The idlers have a drive that other drive systems just don't have. You probably are among the many people who prefer this sound. I have a Rek-O-Kut that needs a rebuild. Although I love my Linn LP12, almost everything I read says I should give the idler a try. It won't be hard to sell if I decide I prefer the Linn!
Dave
Thanks all for the info.
Esp nosmok gonna check that out right away.
Is there any match that works better with TTs and amps?
Like some speakers sound better with certain amps.
Might be a dumb Q but I am willing to put it out there. I dont see how there could be but never know.
So I will drop it off and ask you guys what the guy says and what he prices it at, might as well do them both got them for next to nothing.
Rugged, decent arm, good mechanicals...these are better than the 1200 series according to moost tt repair folks. A resto is highly recommended if the motor still spins without any noise. Old motors can seize or squeak. Sometimes, a bit of thin oil restores the motor to usability for more than a few more years.
However, mechanical issues will determine the repair costs. You do not specify anything wrong or right. If the tonearm needs replacing, the entire table must be disassembled. If the changer cycle cam needs replacing, it is a large job. If you can cycle the auto-function, even without power not applied, while spinning the platter, you will save bunches of money. If a switch is stuck, disassembly is not fun. Typical repair bills get close to $100. If all the tech has to do is clean/regrease, resto will cost less.
For anyone who doubts an auto table can approach their meaning of high fidelity, I assure you that record changers have abilities to make nice muic. Stacking 45s and 78s is fantastic fun. I really like my 1019 for stacking 45s ! 78s are very forgiving of mechanically correct tables and arms, so either table listed by the OP will work well for these speeds. Stereo Lps are the deciding factor with auto stacker tables. Rumble and motor/bearing noise is the problem with stereo discs. The dual tables can get it right. Many stackers have inherent noise issues; maybe still great for 78s, though...
Best of Luck with your Dual resto efforts...
No major problems with the TTs just wanted a professional tune up/
Guy moved his shop down street from my house so no shipping figured have it looked over good and in tip top shape. So stick with the 1019 first maybe. Or the1228 if that is not better sounding and make sure he does good work. Neurotic I know but want to get them both running smooth.
They run now but like I said want them as clear as possible.
Thanks,
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