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Brass acorn nuts under my equipment blew away carbon fiber cones from Diamond Racing, the well thought out Mapleshade brass footers seem to get well reviewed and there must be a reason that the Furutech faceplate is brass covered in carbon fiber. I bet it sounds great. Someone let me know.The Fenton solid brass, heavy duplex receptacle $18 with free shipping
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
Edits: 08/18/20Follow Ups:
I certainly wouldn't argue that faceplates on equipment could color the sound, one way or another, but faceplates on wall sockets? Especially if metal they should never even touch the actual socket. I know. I know.
What is it that you know you know Lew? Have you tried listening after a change in a wall faceplate. The excellent Brainerd 126453 recommended by duster seems not to be available but a very similar item, the Brainerd 64234 is available and cost $3.75. There is hardly an easier and less expensive tweak, maybe even easier and cheaper than a $6 audiophile UL rated fuse. You think Furutech and Oyaide are selling faceplates for over $100 with no sonic effect? I tell you what, by the Brainerd 64234, listen to it, and if you can't hear a difference I'll refund your purchase price. Or maybe better yet, buy the carbon fiber one recently recommended for $20 free shipping and if you can't here the difference I'll give you $20 bucks for it. Close to zero time and effort and close to zero financial risk. What more could you ask for doctor man?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
Edits: 08/21/20
What I know I know is that my post would get the response it got. I shouldn't knock it if I haven't tried it. Actually, I wasn't knocking it; I was expressing surprise and skepticism. For decorative reasons, we have brass faceplates on many of our electrical outlets already. Maybe I should go back and forth between brass and some other material and have a listen. Maybe in my next life. We use Baldwin, BTW.
Well Lew, I can't fathom why you wouldn't try such an easy and quick tweak with all you have invested. The difference between face plates and from what I personally hear the difference between brass and steel screws is not all that subtle. I'm not sure I get the point of your post.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
I've found that you can't always believe what you hear
but with practice, you'll always hear what you believe
regards,
Just thinking out loud, I guess. No offense intended.
Stop dropping my name when mentioning a low-cost device I suggested 10 years ago, which has been greatly superseded by modern technology for little cash outlay.
Excellent low-cost Brainerd Liberty 126453 AC wall plate.
Posted by Duster (A) on December 6, 2010 at 16:53:45
Well duster, your glowing description of the Brainerd sure sounds like it is more than marginally better than a random plastic wall plate but I have no doubt there are better. The similar Brainerd 64234 now available is as low as $3.75 so it might be a good place to start for the skeptical who don't think such a change would do anything or don't want to spend $20 on a wall plate. I would also suggest that you refrain from your dictatorial, authoritarian imperatives. Just a suggestion, I'm sure it will be ignored.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
Stop using my credibility to justify your often ill-informed positions. There is nothing dictatorial or authoritarian about the request.
Stand on your own two feet, and keep me out of your often abusive and confrontational attention seeking in the forum. That's all I ask.
Is the "Excellent" Brainerd 126453 only marginally better than a regular cheap plastic wall plate as you recently stated or is it significantly better? I myself thought it so much better that I gave one to an audiophile at work as a holiday gift. He was a bit skeptical but was impressed after trying it. A clearly better,more 3D soundstage. If I thought it only marginally better I wouldn't have given it as a gift or recommended it previously here. Maybe I'll get around to the new wall plate eventually. The Brainerd was and is an excellent or at least solid good tweak IMO. There's almost always better.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein
Yes Mike, they do. It's a fun, cheap tweak. Here is a previously recommended faceplate that I use. I haven't A B'ed a bunch of them but this was a significant improvement over a standard plastic plate. One can expect, IMO some improvement in the soundstage... Perhaps the new carbon fiber plate or the brass one will be better??
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
That finding was posted December 6, 2010. Nearly 10 years ago. The link to the "Affordable Laminated Carbon Fiber Composite AC Outlet Wall Plate" pointed to a few days ago is modern technology made affordable. What not try a $20 carbon fiber AC outlet wall plate instead of a hardware store variety product that is only marginally better than a plastic wall plate, tweaker456?
I was under the impression that you have not listened to these new CF faceplates yet. It was my impression that the Brainard faceplates were way better than plastic, not just marginally. I see no reason not to try pretty much anything that one is willing to spend the money on. Hope people love them.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
Image: Oversized carbon fiber AC outlet wall plate.
I made it clear that I evaluated and use an oversized version, not the one that conforms exactly to a standard sized North American AC outlet wall plate.
You should read what folks say rather than claim things that are not true. Don't misrepresent my information, nor that of anyone else.
And you listened to this exact brass faceplate or do you assume all brass face plates sound the same?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
how about the sound without a faceplate on the socket?
Older installs have metal cans to hold the socket in the wall, newer ones have plastic.
What about that diff?
Inquiring minds and all that, thx.
"Bass is the place..the rest is filigree and lace" Doug Sax
There's been discussions about that matter over the years. A search of the AA archives should provide some posts to read, Story.
I was just looking for a nice, concise explanation from you if you even had one.
It would have been nice to ADD it to the archives instead of consuming time looking for answers.
"Bass is the place..the rest is filigree and lace" Doug Sax
He must be off in a huff having a sulk after someone else "dusted" him.
It sucks to get old. It really sucks to get old and bitter.
Yo Uncle Mikey, what's up?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
You seem to disregard the fact that the brass structure is covered with carbon fiber. It's safe to assume that brass was chosen since it helps conduct the stray magnetic fields which are then dissipated by the semi-conductive carbon fiber material. It's the same concept as the Highwire Power Wrap with a copper wire as a core, which is then covered with mu-metal for energy dissipation. I have evaluated a simple brass AC outlet wall plate, and found a basic non-magnetic stainless steel product like Furutech offers to be a better sounding option, but nothing too special since it simply sounds better than a plastic wall plate. A non-magnetic stainless steel Hubbell product can be purchased at Home Depot for much less cash outlay.
"You seem to disregard the fact that the brass structure is covered with carbon fiber." How you could possibly arrive at that conclusion is beyond my comprehension since I have brought up the Furutech brass and carbon fiber faceplate twice so far mentioning the carbon fiber both times. It is brass covered in carbon and glass fiber, not stainless steel covered in carbon and glass fiber, or aluminium, or nickel... Furutech chose brass.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
You wrote:
"How you could possibly arrive at that conclusion is beyond my comprehension"
Don't be obtuse. It's perfectly obvious. The point of your post is:
"Affordable solid brass faceplate", "The Fenton solid brass, heavy duplex receptacle $18 with free shipping".
You imply that a brass wall plate without a carbon fiber layer sounds great, and ask for advice:
"I bet it sounds great. Someone let me know."
I'm letting you know, tweaker456.
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