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In Reply to: RE: Furutech GTX-D ( R ) Vs GTX-D NCF ( R ) Vs Oyaide R1 AC Outlets. posted by el34eh@yahoo.com on March 08, 2016 at 14:09:10
I find the sonic benefits of each AC outlet are (in effect) system, component, and/or listener dependent issues. Since they sound quite different, it won't be difficult to decide which one is preferable for a particular application, IME.
I have an Oyaide R1 and a Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) installed right next to each other in a power line distributor, so I'm able to compare the two quite different sounding AC outlets in a comprehensive manner. They provide quite different sonic signatures, and in my opinion can actually complement each other when implemented as customized system tuning devices. To a degree, the main aspects of their differences have to do with soundstage height and essential differences in tonality which may or may not be what a listener seeks for a particular component, or a systemwide gestalt such as the particular AC outlet installed at the wall that feeds downstream power line distributors/conditioners.
I find the Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) provides a taller soundstage dimension, and a more linear and leaner tonality from top to bottom, while the Oyaide R1 provides denser sounding images and a stronger sounding bottom end, with a more subdued treble energy in comparison. Some folks might find the Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) to sound more anylitical, while the Oyaide R1 to sound more musical, but these are subjective generalities based on my own opinions. YMMV
In my case, the Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) feeds my solid state preamplifier and DIP (Digital Interface Processor) with both power cords terminated with Furutech FI-50(G) AC plugs, while my power amplifier power cord terminated with Wattgate Gold is plugged into the Oyaide R1 with the second socket feeding a downstream power line conditioner via a power cord terminated with Oyaide 004 Beryllium AC connectors. For use with my my solid state power amplifier, I find the Oyaide R1 to be preferable to the Furutech GTX-D NCF(R). The effect of the Oyaide R1 provides a more natural acoustic vs. the more analytical perspective of the Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) when implemented for my solid state power amplifier, placed within my particular audio system. YMMV
For a tube system, the Furutech GTX-D(R) or the newer GTX-D NCF(R) are likely better options than an Oyaide R1 which presents a more subdued treble characteristic that may make the Oyaide R1 better suited for solid state systems with a more energetic top end. However, even for a solid state system like mine, the Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) AC outlet, especially when mated with a gold plated Furutech FI-50(G) AC plug is a stellar AC outlet/AC plug combo, not unlike the original "killer app" Oyaide SWO-XXX AC outlet/Oyaide P-079 AC plug combo, IME.
The same differences of the Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) vs. the Oyaide R1 can be found via the Furutech FI-50(G) AC plug vs. the Oyaide P-004 Beryllium AC plug. In my case, I re-terminated an Acrolink 7N-P4030II power cord originally terminated with Oyaide 004 AC connectors with a set of Furutech FI-50(G) AC connectors as an experiment, and found that the FI-50(G) didn't provide good synergy to my ear. In the case of the Acrolink 7N-P4030II power cord, I much prefer the synergy provided by the Oyaide 004 AC connectors when placed on a source component.
I recommend that folks might consider what I did, and install both an Oyaide R1 and a Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) in a power line distributor/conditioner in order to hear what each can do within their particular audio systems.
Follow Ups:
Hello,
I have been using Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) AC outlets and Furutech fuses (in Parasound Halo A-21 amplifier) in my system for about a month or so. I have all solid state audio components in my gear. The sound after installing the fuses and the receptacles has improved significantly. Everything matches that you guys talked about the clarity/depth and height of the sound stage. While I love these improvements I found that the top end has become harsh and it sounds a little metallic. The system has had around 250+ hrs after I installed the fuse and the receptacles. Are these components still breaking in or would it be the final signature of the sound? Did you guys have similar experience or have any comment on this issue?
I would appreciate your feedback.
Thanks.
Thank you for this review of the new NCF outlet Duster! A few years back I read your review on Oyaide 079's and decided to use them throughout my system which needed warmth/lush sound. You were spot on, and I've enjoyed the sound for some time. Recently, I had the chance to compare with the 004. The 004's have significantly more resolution and a relaxed silky smooth top end as you described in your review. They are a huge upgrade in my system but lack warmth the Oyaide 079's provide. I was thinking the FI-50(G) would be a homerun but see that you didn't find it a good match with the 7N-P4030II (very similar to my cables). I'm guessing it too has the metallic sound many have mentioned. Do you know if the Furutech FI-28 or Wattgage Evo gold plugs would be an upgrade to the 079 (more resolution) and a good match for the 7N-P4030II? Or is the 004/m1/f1 plugs the only synergistic high resolution option for this sort of cable? Thanks!
I don't find the Furutech FI-50(G) to sound warm in the same manner as the gold plated Oyaide 079. The gold plated FI-50(G) is very neutral to my ear, while the warmth of the 079 is quite obvious. What is the exact make/model of your power cord, and what particular make/model AC outlet is it plugged into?
Duster,
Thanks.........., as always, it seems that I can always rely upon you as one of those whom I see as the voice of logic, and judging by your writings, I should've known if anyone had played around with the different sonics of either of these outlets, it would've been you.
I'll certainly look into having both installed onto one of my line distributors and in fact learn how to judge their sonics as mentioned, and afterwards learn how to be ulitize either according to said component which they work with in said comprehensive manner as per your recommendations, as what you've stated does in fact makes for a very practical means of voicing ones system according to the strengths and weaknesses of their front end components and amplification as needed.
And in hindsight, what you've mentioned in regards to matching the plating materials to each outlet does indeed support what you've been saying all along, it's a synergy thing and one that shouldn't be taken for granted.
Thanks once again to you and Steve both, for coming to my as distances on this, as I was beginning to lose a great deal of sleep on which way would prove worth pursuing. This does make matters much much clearer in my mind.
Once again..........., much appreciation to you both.
Hi O_o scar,
As you know, the sonic signature of every path in the signal chain can make a big difference, one way or another.
I would be glad to follow an evaluation of your project in this forum.
Cheers, Duster
Hello Duster,
No truer words could've been spoken | written. And once again it's truly an honor having you watch over my moments in said matters.
Thanks again,
O_oh
Duster:
Very nice in depth description of the sonics imparted by various wall outlets. I am in absolute agreement with your analysis.
In addition to the fundamental effect the wall outlets make, there has been recent improvements in audio grade fuses. In the past I have uses Furutech, Isoclean, Synergistic Research SR-20, and factory stock fuses. All changed the sound with the 10 cent stock fuse sounding the worst.
The new Synergistic Research "Black" fuse has a much greater and positive change than any of the above fuses. For me it has really opened up a significant sonic bottleneck. Best of all they are sold with a 30 day money back trial. These fuses combined with the correct wall outlet absolutely improve the audio experience.
I hope Duster and others will audition this fuse and I look forward to Duster's opinion.
David Pritchard
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